New motherboard won't boot windows

March 10, 2009 at 10:04:24
Specs: Windows XP
I just built a new computer.Asus Maximus Formula 2 mb. Intel Core 2 Duo 45nm 6 mb l2 proc. Geforce Verto VC. Kingston 800 ddr2 2g ram
I added my older hard drive (actually new but only used for 2 months) and old dvdrw both IDE. they are on one IDE cable master(hd) slave (dvdrw).I get error message reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key. I have tried different jumper configs, clearing c-mos. My hard drive does work I just tested on another computer, but not on this new set up. Any ideas. Do I change something in the bios? Please help I need this computer for school. Even if I get a new Dvdrw that is Sata. The hard drive isn't booting to windows. If I jumper the cd as master it works(but then HD doesn't)Please help

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March 10, 2009 at 10:44:58
When you have a BIOS with both SATA and IDE capability you need to make addition boot drive selections. In addition to the normal hard drive designation in the boot order you need to choose which hard drive. Look in the manual to determine where in the BIOS screen you can find the additional settings.

Also, the drives must be jumpered as either Master and Slave or BOTH must be CS (cable select).

If you are recycling the hard drive with WinXP installed you will need to perform a repair install. If the original WinXP came pre-installed on a computer you most likely won't get that version to work on a different computer.

One last thing to note. If the hard drive now in use was in service along with an additional hard drive your boot files may have been on the other hard drive. If that is the case you will need to repair the boot files.

From what you describe I think you have the jumpers set wrong.

Post back with additional information to get additional help.

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March 10, 2009 at 10:51:15
if you take a hard drive with windows xp on from one computer and put it in another with a different make model chipset on the mobo then normally windows wont boot. different mobos fail at different points with different messages or just get stuck with no message. this can sometimes, but not always, be fixed by booting from a xp cd and doing a repair type instal of windows xp. if this works then all old data etc will be there, but it does not always work.

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March 10, 2009 at 12:43:30
Thanks othehill and cliffpage for responding.
I have found the only way the dvd likes to operate is by being master (when the hard drive is slave the mb does'nt see it). Cable select on both just hangs up the computer and doesn't work. I think I am going to get a new Sata dvdrw and let the HD have it's own IDE. Hopefully I will be able to run the Windows OS disc to repair the drive.

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March 10, 2009 at 13:09:21
I don't think the DVD drive cares how it is configured. I would try a new cable. You need an 80 wire 40 pin cable to run the hard drive and DVD drive properly. You can tell the difference by the colored connectors on the cable. The drive end of the cable has a black connector with the center being grey and the Motherboard end is usually blue but can be other colors. If you are not currently using that type of cable then you need to get one. Jumper the hard drive as Master and the DVD as slave. You can connect either drive to either the black or grey. Whatever works best with the drive placement.

One thing you might be doing wrong is this. Western Digital drives have TWO Master jumper positions. Master alone (only drive on the cable) and Master with slave.
You should try booting to your WinXP CD by setting the boot order that way. Then run a system repair. Look at the link below for details on how to do that.

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March 11, 2009 at 10:46:39
Hello, The situation hasn't improved much from before. I went out and bought a SATA DVDRW thinking that the hard drive could use the ide alone and maybe there wouldn't be any problems. The bios sees the sata and it sees the hard drive(ide) but still won't boot to windows. I still get pick boot device error. I then plugged an external SATA HD in and the windows os cd did try to work with the external hd. Sadly it can't work w/ it. It did start up and get all the way to password then locked. I put the external on another computer and loaded mb drivers and new sata dvdrw drivers onto the external. I then tried to install windows os setup/repair. I found that that is impossible to do w/ out much work and know how. So this is where I am at. I'm pretty depressed, have no computer to do homework on but still hopefull. I do not want to have to pack it up and take it to the geek squad so they can charge me much money to tell me my ram is bad or something just as easy to fix. This is the first computer I have built w/ no help at all. It will be awesome if I can get it to boot. Someone must have had this problem before me and conquered it. Please any ideas at all? I don't have a floppy and don't know if a boot floppy would work anyway. I've used one before but never made one.

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March 11, 2009 at 12:30:25
I told you the DVD drive didn't care. You need to either pull it together and follow the links already provided or get some paid help.

The second link in #4 explains in detail how to reinstall WinXP. That is what a repair install is. Did you even look at the linked articles? Simply double click the link to open the article.

What do hope to accomplish with an external hard drive. You can't run WinXP off of an external drive (others, please don't refute that statement here and complicate things).

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March 11, 2009 at 13:10:09
Thanks othehill for the help.I did look at ur links and I had already done what u told me to. The hd is seen in bios but windows disc doesn't see it. It did see the external(didn't know it was hard to load os onto external)I will figure something out.

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March 11, 2009 at 14:46:25
What do you mean the disk doesn't see it? Do you get some kind of message? Are you letting the WinXP installation runto the point where you have a choice to repair or install new? Or are you saying at that point WinXP states there are no hard drives installed?

What capacity is the drive and what were/are the specs on the computer you did have it installed in?

When you had that hard drive in a different computer was there also a second hard drive installed?

It seems that there may be something wrong with that hard drive. How do you have the IDE hard drive jumpered and cabled?

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March 11, 2009 at 16:26:38
Hello. When I try to install os it takes quite a while,then It starts to go into setup during setup the cursor dissapears and my screen is just black. Nothing else happens and I have to reboot. The os only completes setup and (does not give me repair option) if I start the process using my external drive then turn it off defaulting to my internal drive. The internal is a 75 gb Maxtor. Asus Maximus Formula 2 mb. Intel Core 2 Duo 45nm 6 mb l2 proc. Geforce Verto VC. Kingston 800 ddr2 2g ram. I ran chkdsk after dos prompt and my hard drive is fine not corrupted at all.

I just got setup to work on internal drive but right after f8 for the agreement I don't get the option to repair installation. I had the hd as master but just changed it to cable select.

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March 11, 2009 at 18:04:04
You didn't answer if you had a second drive in your old system?

Your WinXP installation is not showing up on the hard drive.

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March 11, 2009 at 19:38:55
No I didn't have another drive
just one

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March 12, 2009 at 03:09:24
Something doesn't seem right. What kind of WinXP CD do you have?

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March 12, 2009 at 09:06:11
Hi OtheHill I have XP Professional OEM

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March 12, 2009 at 09:43:35
I just put an old hd in the computer. It was speedier (it has a missing file dir. problem) The oem os still did not give a repair option but this hd is a little messed up and not too fixable.
I think it is a hd problem. I could get another hard drive and ghost my old drive into it.

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March 12, 2009 at 10:49:53
If the install CD can't see your WinXP installation then I don't know if you could clone the drive or if you want to.

I suggest that you download a drive fitness test for your particular brand of hard drive from the manufacturer's site and run it from a CD. You install it to a CD or floppy drive and you will be able to boot to it and check the drive. There may be something the utility can fix. At least it will determine if the drive is the problem.

Also, download and run memtest86 from a boot disk just like the drive fitness test. That utiltiy will determine if there are problems with you memory (RAM).

Hopefully, you have access to an internet capable computer with a burner drive and software installed.

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March 13, 2009 at 19:39:05
Thanks OtheHill so much for helping me. I finally went out and bought another hard drive. Windows installed w/ no problem. So far things are ok. I need to reinstall all of my programs which is a pain I was trying to avoid. I tried connecting the older hd as slave to the new and the computer only sees one hd the older one. It is a shame as The old one is not very old and is 500 gb. I thought it was smaller. It is bigger than the new hd. The old hd works on an older computer w/out the new IDE cables. The new mb uses Ultra DMA this is what I found. Do you think this could be the problem?

On new systems there are few issues with running Ultra DMA, because the hardware is all new and designed to run in Ultra DMA mode. With older systems, things are a bit more complex. In theory, new drives should be backwards compatible with older controllers, and putting an Ultra DMA drive on an older PC should cause it to automatically run in a slower mode, such as PIO mode 4. Unfortunately, certain motherboards don't function well when an Ultra DMA drive is connected, and this may result in lockups or errors. A BIOS upgrade from the motherboard manufacturer is a good idea, if you are able to do this. Otherwise, you may need to use a special Ultra DMA software utility (available from the drive manufacturer) to tell the hard disk not to try to run in Ultra DMA mode. The same utility can be used to enable Ultra DMA mode on a drive that is set not to use it. You should use the utility specific to whatever make of drive you have.

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March 13, 2009 at 20:14:36
All IDE ATA hard drives are backward compatible with all DMA modes.

You must install the motherboard chipset drivers to get any IDE drive to run in any DMA mode.

DMA has nothing to do with weather or not the BIOS or Windows can see the drive.

I am not sure what your problems are with the hard drives but I am pretty sure it has nothing to do with any DMA modes.

What you cite is related to controllers that are generations older than what you have and had.

Your issues may have something to do with 48 bit LBA compliance. For information on that look at the link below.

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