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new graphic card for my computer.

September 19, 2009 at 06:56:13
Specs: Windows Vista home premium, 1,86GHz/4Gb Ram

Hello.
I need a new graphic card for my computer, but im not experienced with computers, so i need some help finding the best graphic card my computer can handle or so :P

CPU/Ram: 1,86GHz/4Gb Ram

Windows: Windows Vista home premium SP pack 1

Monitor: SyncMaster 2043nw

Power Supply: ATX-400 JSP 400W
AC input 230V~,5A, 50Hz

DC +3.3VDC +5VDC +12V1DC +12V2DC -12VDC +5VSB PS-ON COM POK

MAX.Output 30A 30A 16A 18A 1,0A 2.0A REMOTE RETURN PG

and as it says in belarc advisor System model is Microlink.

but have a look for youself, cus im maybe mistaking by some things

ASTRA32 : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/...

Belarc Advisor : http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/...

im afraid they both say opposite things.
but i dont know :P so look them and tell me whats the best graphic card i can use.
thanks again ! ! !


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#1
September 19, 2009 at 07:34:05

All you really need to know is the motherboard make/model, then you can look up the board specs. Both programs ID the board as an Intel D946GZIS & if you check the manual, it has a PCI-e x16 slot:

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/151...

So now that you know the slot type, it's just a matter of how much you're willing to spend. If you're looking for a gaming card, this article should be helpful:

Best Graphics Cards For The Money: September '09


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#2
September 19, 2009 at 07:39:20

Wait ! what do i need to do then?

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#3
September 19, 2009 at 07:42:37

You need to click the link Jam sent you on video card reviews and choose what card looks good for your needs. Only you know what you need the video upgrade for. Games / video editing etc. You have a pci-e choice of cards.

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#4
September 19, 2009 at 07:42:41

Form factor is make/model? microATX (9,60Inch by 9,60 inches [243.84millimeters by 243.84millimeters])

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#5
September 19, 2009 at 07:45:46

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews... should this work for my computeR?
the geforce 9600 GT
i would like to have a vid card with 512Mb +

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#6
September 19, 2009 at 07:50:27

Yes, any pci-e card.

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#7
September 19, 2009 at 08:19:15

"Form factor is make/model?"

NO. Form factor is basically the size of the board....ATX, microATX, etc. Unless you mean the case form factor? Tower, desktop, SFF (small form factor)?

The make/model is listed under "board model" (imagine that) = Intel D946GZIS

"the geforce 9600 GT"

If you get into a card like that, you'll need to check your power supply specs. Not just the wattage, but the amperage specs (especially the +12v rail) & you'll need to check to see if the PSU has a 6-pin PCIe plug to connect to the video card. If you have to upgrade the PSU, plan on spending at least $50 for something decent.

If you were to get a Radeon HD 4670 512MB DDR3, you wouldn't have to be concerned with the PSU. That card has low power consumption & doesn't require the 6-pin aux power plug.

EDIT: If you have a SFF system, you'll have to get a low profile video card. That will severely limit your choices.


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#8
September 19, 2009 at 08:23:03

so, help mee ! :D im willing to spend up to 90$£ for graphic card i just need a card that my computer is able to run the best graphic card my computer can run. :)

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#9
September 19, 2009 at 08:23:48

You could use a 9600GT, but it will be heavily loading your present power supply.

It requires: a minumum 400 watts and 26 amps at +12v PS capacity

Your PS - 400 watts, 34 amps total at +12v

Your power supply must have at least the minimum capacity required to support a system with the graphics card you are using installed, or the max graphics card you might install in the future.
(Onboard video - video built into the mboard - IS NOT A CARD!)
You can go to the video card maker's web site and look up the specs for the model - often under system requirements - the minimum PS wattage, and, more important, the minimum amperage the PS must supply at 12v is stated. If you don't find that, any card with the same video chipset including any letters after the model number has very similar minimum PS requirements.
Some power supplies have more than one +12v amperage rating - they have two - in that case you add the rated max amperages to determine the total +12v amperage rating.

If you need a PS with more capacity, you can usually replace it with any decent standard sized standard ATX PS.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

Don't buy an el-cheapo PS.
See response 3 in this:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...


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#10
September 19, 2009 at 08:25:50

nono it doesnt have to be a 9600GT i just showd a example will this work on my computer but. i would like to get the best graphic card for my computer up to 90dollars eurs
you guys got the information.
just help me choose a good gaming graphic card for my computer :P up to 90dollars or eur

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#11
September 19, 2009 at 08:56:38

will anyone help me with this?

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#12
September 19, 2009 at 09:59:09

Radeon HD 4670 512MB DDR3

This seems to be the card that won't tax your power supply, but like it was said, make sure you have the pci=e connector on your power supply. It should be marked when you look at it.


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#13
September 19, 2009 at 10:35:57

make sure you have the pci=e connector on your power supply:::::
where can i look it? see it or whatever:P

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#14
September 19, 2009 at 10:40:04

Where do you live?

Search for something suitable web site in your country. .

E.g. If it's in the UK

search for: graphics card uk
or - video card uk

Look for "hits" with uk, or whatever the code for your country is, at the end of the address.

E.g. http://www.misco.co.uk
seems to be pretty good - it shows you the minimum PS watts required in most cases

Find the listings for PCI-E Video cards or Graphics cards

Sort the list according to price - low to high.

E.g. http://www.misco.co.uk/applications...

Keep in mind when you order online, you usually have to pay for shipping on top of what you pay for a card.

You can usually buy the same or similar cards locally - no shipping charge if you pick it up - they often have web sites - look in your local phone book yellow pages or similar under Computer Parts or similar - the web address is often in the ad.
......

If you're willing to spend some more and upgrade your power supply, you can install ANY PCI-E X16 card.

If you're not, you need to choose a card with a chipset that requires the system have a power supply of 400 watts or less capacity. It's not recommended you get one that requires 400 watts, because that would be loading the PS to near it's full capacity.

E.g. Radeon 2600XT, NVidia 9500GT require a minium 350 watt PS - that would be a better choice for you.

E.g. 9500GT
Zotac GeForce 9500GT 512MB Cuda PCI-Express graphics card
http://www.misco.co.uk/applications...

Radeon 2600 XT - 300 watts minmum

9600GT, Radeon 2600 Pro, 2670, 3600 series, 4550, 4650, 4670 - 400 watts minimum

E.g. 4670
http://www.misco.co.uk/applications...

Radeon 3850, 3870, 4770, 4830, 4850 - 450 watts minimum

Radeon 4870 - 500 watts minimum



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#15
September 19, 2009 at 10:40:09

http://www.ox.ee/est/product/120855 its in estonian but look at the title :P is that the right one ?

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#16
September 19, 2009 at 10:44:53

"90dollars eurs"
"90$£"
Well, which one is it? £90.00 = €99.59 = 146.48 USD

The 4770 can currently be had for 99.99 USD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

The Radeon 4770 is a much faster card than the 4670 and the 9600GT. It's as fast as the Radeon 4850, but consumes far less power. Despite its PCI-E power connector, the 4770's actual power consumption under load is only 2-5w higher than the 4670. Any PSU that can handle the 4670 will run a 4770.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vi...


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#17
September 19, 2009 at 10:46:50

i live in estonia i cant use newegg
http://www.ox.ee/est/product/120855 again look at this !!! can i use this???

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#18
September 19, 2009 at 10:52:16

"make sure you have the pci=e connector on your power supply:::::
where can i look it? see it or whatever:P"

Take a look here - in this case they call it the PCI Power connector.
Hold your cursor over the connector to see the wire colors.
http://www.power-on.com/ea460u.html

If your power supply doesn't have that, you can buy wiring adapters that have that connector on one end that plug into the spare connectors available already on your existing power supply - they're probably available locally as well as online - or - some cards come with that wiring adapter - look for pictures of what comes with the card, or look for that in a list of what comes with the card.


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#19
September 19, 2009 at 10:58:53

Take a look here - in this case they call it the PCI Power connector.
Hold your cursor over the connector to see the wire colors.
http://www.power-on.com/ea460u.html


what do you mean i putted the cursor over the wires or connector :D i putted the cursor over PCI Power 4 and it showed yellow yellow yellow black black black but not in color it was writen.


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#20
September 19, 2009 at 11:13:58

Your card in response 17 will work, but you'll be loading your 400watt suplly to nearly it's max capacity - if it's an el-cheapo PS that may cause it to fail.

I advise you to.....
Unplug the case/power supply.
Power off your monitor.
Open up the case by removing the left panel as seen when you're looking at the front of the case.
Find the brand and model of the power supply and tell us what it is.

Search results - graphics cards - set to find estonian web sites:
http://ca.search.yahoo.com/search?n...


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#21
September 19, 2009 at 11:17:45

tubesandwires thanks for response.
but have you readed the first post?


Power Supply: ATX-400 JSP 400W
AC input 230V~,5A, 50Hz

DC +3.3VDC +5VDC +12V1DC +12V2DC -12VDC +5VSB PS-ON COM POK

MAX.Output 30A 30A 16A 18A 1,0A 2.0A REMOTE RETURN PG

:P if thats not enought tell me what will i look on the power supply :P but im not buying a new power supply :D just a graphic card :D il be back in +20mins :P


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#22
September 19, 2009 at 11:41:45

You have to open the case & check the wiring. While you're at it, get the make/model number. El-cheapo units tend to have exaggerated specs.

Go to the following site & scroll about 1/2 way down til you see the picture. That is a 2 x 4-pin molex to 6-pin PCIe adapter. Now you know what the plugs look like.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuov...


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#23
September 19, 2009 at 11:47:11

wait do i have to check the wiring of power supply right?
il do it tomorrow morning and make a response if i got the wires cus right now im kind of tired . =) thanks for help. but look this topic tomorrow too ok ?


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#24
September 19, 2009 at 12:39:32

"The Radeon 4770 is a much faster card than the 4670 and the 9600GT. It's as fast as the Radeon 4850, but consumes far less power"

ATI Radeon™ HD 4770 - System Requirements
http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonh...
450 Watt or greater power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended

As I said above:
Radeon 3850, 3870, 4770, 4830, 4850 - 450 watts minimum

"tubesandwires thanks for response.
but have you readed the first post?"

That doesn't appear to tell us the brand or model.
If you read that directly off the label on the PS and that's all there is, then it's definately an el-cheapo PS and I DO NOT recommend you choose a card that requires a minimum 400 watt PS because it's a lot more likely to fail when it's fully loaded all the time than a good qualty PS.
....

"wait do i have to check the wiring of power supply right?"

The wiring and all the connectors on most modern PS are standard - you just need to determine whether you have the one for a PCI-E video card.
See response 18.
"Hold your cursor over the connector to see the wire colors."
I didn't say the wires were in color.


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#25
September 19, 2009 at 12:41:37

That doesn't appear to tell us the brand or model.
If you readthat directly off the label on the PSand that'sall thereis
yes i readed it from power supply it was on power supply writen like that :P

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#26
September 19, 2009 at 15:10:17

"ATI Radeon™ HD 4770 - System Requirements
http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonh...
450 Watt or greater power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended

As I said above:
Radeon 3850, 3870, 4770, 4830, 4850 - 450 watts minimum"

Just because the manufacturer clusters the cards together doesn't change the fact that the 4770 uses 60 watts less than the 4850, 35 watts less than the 4830, and only 2 watts more than the 4670. Did you see the xbiltlabs link?


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#27
September 19, 2009 at 15:45:22

I got those requirements from ATI.
He should useat least a 450 watt PS with that, period.

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#28
September 20, 2009 at 00:59:48

tell me the exact points i need to do?
and im not going to buy new power supply :D

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#29
September 20, 2009 at 02:38:30

ok.
i looked the name of the power supply EZcool super silent power supply 2.03 Version socket 775

and for the wiring do i have to look the power supply wiring connected to motherboard?


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#30
September 20, 2009 at 07:53:16

"EZcool super silent power supply"

I looked up: EZcool super silent power supply
on the web.
It appears it's an el-cheapo brand.
There is no EZcool "parent" web site -not a good thing.
No info about the length of warranty found.
A listing for a 500 watt one sells for only 14 British pounds - about 25 Canadian dollars.

If I were you I would buy a graphics card that requires no more than a 350 watt minimum power supply, otherwise you'd be likely risking the PS will fail eventually.
El-cheapo PSs are a lot more likely to damage other things when they fail - often the mboard.

E.g. get a Radeon 2600XT, or NVidia 9500GT .
See response 14
Use a search engine set to find Estonian sites, as in the link at the end of response 20.
Or you could use use one set to any nearby country, or any web site in any country that will ship to your country, since you seem to understand English fairly well - just make sure they can ship to your country on the shipping information, and web sites in farther away countries may charge more for shipping.
Or find a web site for a local place, or visit a local place that has lots of computer parts.
....

If you're not going to be changing the mboard or the power supply, the only thing you need to be concerned about regarding the power supply wiring is whether you have the special connector for powering the power socket on the PCI-E video card - do you? See response 18.
Not all PCI-E video cards that require less power have that - if it does, that's mentioned in the ad, and you may see an obvious white socket in pictures of the card.


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#31
September 20, 2009 at 08:18:25

Radeon HD 4670 512MB GDDR3 - enough said.

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#32
September 20, 2009 at 08:40:54

Jam are you sure that this wont Radeon HD 4670 512MB GDDR3

(If I were you I would buy a graphics card that requires no more than a 350 watt minimum power supply, otherwise you'd be likely risking the PS will fail eventually.
El-cheapo PSs are a lot more likely to damage other things when they fail - often the mboard) do that to my computer. totaly FAIL or PS

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#33
September 20, 2009 at 08:58:31

I made my recommendation. Do some friggin research.

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#34
September 20, 2009 at 09:58:36

"If you're not going to be changing the mboard or the power supply, the only thing you need to be concerned about regarding the power supply wiring is whether you have the special connector for powering the power socket on the PCI-E video card - do you? See response 18".

If you don't have that, you'll need to get the wiring adapter jam pointed to in response 22, if one doesn't come with the card.

Some cards come with that wiring adapter - look for pictures of what comes with the card, or look for that in a list of what comes with the card.



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#35
September 20, 2009 at 10:10:37

"If you're not going to be changing the mboard or the power supply, the only thing you need to be concerned about regarding the power supply wiring is whether you have the special connector for powering the power socket on the PCI-E video card - do you? See response 18".

ok. but where is it where it comes from and what is it connected to ? mboard? so i can look inside my computer and look for that thing so i can see.

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#36
September 20, 2009 at 10:57:43

See response 18, 22

Either it's connected to the power supply or it isn't.
If you don't presently have a PCI-E video card that has a socket for that, it's not connected to anything except the PS wiring, if you have it. It's only used for PCI-E video cards. All the connectors on the wiring that come from the power supply are desgned to only plug into one type of socket - they can't be installed in the wrong place, or backwards


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#37
September 20, 2009 at 10:59:08

ok i see it ! it is yellow yellow yellow black black black at its coming from Power supply and it isnt connected to anything.

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#38
September 20, 2009 at 11:01:13

il give you a pic so you can see what i mean.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/51...

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#39
September 20, 2009 at 11:03:13

Jeez...here;s pictures

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuco...

Skip


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#40
September 20, 2009 at 11:12:30

your point skip?

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#41
September 20, 2009 at 18:20:08

The point is - do some friggin research!!

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