I HIGHLY recommend you do NOT buy a brand computer like a Compaq, Hp, Dell... Because if you need to upgrade or repair something it is much harder since brand computers use proprietary parts including motherboard and power supply. So I recommend you build your computer. Jonathan

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That link that "skipcox" gave a couple of posts ago is definetly along the lines of a somewhat average computer. I have an Athlon XP 1800 and integrated everything(which sucks btw). My PC can barely run The Sims 2, which is a more high end game, I think. But the TigerDirect PC would run The Sime 2, Call of Duty, Halo, and Battlefield: Vietnam. However, it obviously won't run Doom 3, Half Life 2, or Rome: Total War. In the world of computers you basically get what you pay for. Also, I used TigerDirect and Newegg to build both of my computers. Another quick thing, you will have to assemble this type of computer yourself, and the parts aren't proprietary so no worries. Hope the helps

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Thanks hapee Thats like 750 Can $ and about 785 Aus $ And all that gear that you got for 600 US we would pay $1186.00 Aust which equals 910 US $ Bit of a diff isnt it. IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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well i support all these guys i built my own AMD 64 3000+ with MSI NEO board and i love it i also have it in a mod case with blue neon display lighting and you know the biggest secret i am a visual impared man. i can only see from one eye. so if i can you can and dont buy the brand name store crap. good luck man all good things come to those who look for them

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Have a look at these components also. This is just a suggestion to try and help you get started. Gigabyte 8ipe775 or 8ipe775 Pro Mother board Intel celeron 335J 2.8 Ghz 2.256 pc3200 400 Mhz generic ram. Saphire ati 9200se 128 DDR agp card Seagate 80 gig SATA 7200 rpm drive. A generic case with 400 wat power supply. This should fit within your budget. Good luck IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Ok thanks guys this has help a GREAT deal. i will build my own from the sites you gave me. If i need any help in the process of building i will difeinatly come to you. Thanks again

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NOt a problem Mat !! We were glad we could help. Just remember read all the instructions that come with all components, touch nothing with your fingers untill you need to use them. Go slow, use a bit of caution and you will build yourself a great first comp to enjoy. I have some basic instructions that you can use let me know and I will post them for you. Regards IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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I was wondering what was the difference between amd athlon, duron and all of those and intel pentium, celeron, etc and which one is the "best" if there is any difference at all.

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Basically, there are two big competitors in the processor business: Intel and AMD. The Pentium IV (Intel) and Athlon (AMD) are the "prime" processors, Celeron(Intel) and Duron(AMD) are cheaper budget versions. However, all pc's currently available are fast (Yep, I'm a fossil from the 386-era ;) ) so if you don't plan on doing anything fancy (3d games, graphic-editing, movie-making) a Celeron/Duron would be good enough. Personally, I have only had bad experiences with AMD, so I always go for Intel. However, lots of people are quite happy with their AMD processor. The best thing to do is to read and compare! You can't compare their clock speeds, if AMD calls it 4000+, suggesting it is better than an Intel 4GHz would be, it will indeed run some things faster, but also some things slower. However, reviews are almost always comparable. Hope this helped.

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Thats exactly what i needed to hear, thanks. Ill take your advice and do a little research on the 2 to see more pros and cons of each.

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Almost done building my computer. So far ive got a 128 MB ATI Raedon Graphics card, 256MB DDR RAM, 80Gig 7200 RPM Western digital HD. Now i need to get a motherboard and processor. This is my HUGE dilema. I am not sure which processor to get. I dont want pentium because it is too costly and do not want to choose a lower class model because of the bus speed and cache. So i am going with amd. But i do not kno which amd to get. I hear a lot of talk between Athlon XP Mobile and Athlon XP. I keep hearing pros and cons of each. Then i hear about these different models, s939 and s754. What does this mean. I want to have a nice all around processor. not only for games but apps. Please tell me which i should get.Thanks. Also what is the difference between 754 and 939. Any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!

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BTW I am matthew just made a new account :P

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You should probably start a new post Matt, not many people are going to go back and look at this. ASUS P5GD1 P-4 3.4 SOCKET 775 1G Corsaire PC400 ABIT RX600SE 256MB PCI-E

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ok thanks

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