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Name: Greatgamer
Date: May 26, 2004 at 09:40:53 Pacific
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: XP 3000
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Ok, here is my problem. My harddrive went out on my other computer, so I decided to get a faster harddrive. I asked around and someone recommended an SATA Drive. My motherboards doesnt have SATA connectors so they told me to purchase an SATA PCI adapter.

The adapdter is able to reconize the SATA harddrive in BIOS, however it is not recognized as a harddrive. So Windows will not install since it says that there are harddrives installed on my PC. So I think my only solution is to purchase a motherboard with built in Serial connections. However, can both IDE and SATA be used at the same time? I need my IDE CD/DVD drive to install Windows, and the SATA drive to of course. Please help. Thanks



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Name: strbux4me2
Date: May 26, 2004 at 09:44:22 Pacific
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is the new hard drive partitioned properly, with the primary partition set Active? Windows won't install unless this is set first. Double check that before you go out and spend money on a new motherboard that you didn't actually need.


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Response Number 2
Name: Greatgamer
Date: May 26, 2004 at 10:19:06 Pacific
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Hello, how am I able to do anything if I cannot get out of Bios? The harddrive is new so I am not sure if it is partitioned. Actually I didnt notice any jumpers on the drive either, is this a new feature with SATA drives?



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Response Number 3
Name: wizard-fred
Date: May 26, 2004 at 11:16:36 Pacific
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Non formatted hard drives are not recognized by windows. You will have to partition and format before they are recognized. I'll leave that to someone with experience in XP.


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Response Number 4
Name: Scuzzy
Date: May 26, 2004 at 13:59:40 Pacific
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Get even a 98 bootdisk, power on your puter with the diskette inserted, get to FDISK so you can create a partition. Get out and and restart this time with your XP Cd in remove the floppy. There are turns of sites that will give you step by step on this... XP Setup will do everything for you now. formatting and all that installation process. Goodluck


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Response Number 5
Name: Greatgamer
Date: May 26, 2004 at 14:46:57 Pacific
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Ah man it still comes back to that wins 98 boot disk, I had a terrible experience with that a long time ago heh. Thanks


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Response Number 6
Name: Greatgamer
Date: May 26, 2004 at 15:24:21 Pacific
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It didnt work, FDISK examined and created a primary dos partition for the drive and when I restarted with Wins XP as boot it displayed:

Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer. Make sure any hard disk drives are powered on and properly connected to your computer, and that any disk related hardware configuration is correct. This may involve running a manufacturer supplied disagnostic or setup program. Setup cannot continue. to quit Setup, press F3


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Response Number 7
Name: strbux4me2
Date: May 27, 2004 at 16:42:29 Pacific
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Try this...hit F6 when Windows XP Setup starts up, so you can install a 3rd RAID controller. Have the mfg. diskette ready and have it load the drivers when prompted.
This should do it.


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Response Number 8
Name: rrlyon
Date: May 27, 2004 at 20:58:14 Pacific
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As strbux stated you need a 3rd party raid controller. BIOS does not recognize SATA drives when used off of a PCI card. It looks at them the same way it deals with SCSI drives. The controller provides the link for Windows and BIOS to talk to the drive. When a system with a SATA card boots you will notice a series of notices on the screen. Typically a system starts with the message about the video card, then the BIOS information, if you have SATA then the message about the SATA controller and then one about the drives being detected. After that the PC can talk to the drive and continue loading Windows. The only boards I have seen that can use SATA without the F6 driver option are the ones with onboard SATA controllers and even they have to have the BIOS updated to enable drive detection. If they can't detect I have been forced to use the floppy with the SATA driver software. The one problem is that Windows REQUIRES a floppy drive to load the SATA drivers. You can't tell it to look for a driver on a CD or anything but a floppy. Hopefully this will change since many vendors are selling the systems without floppies.
Good luck

Richard


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