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Name: cpmusick
Date: April 13, 2004 at 22:45:36 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Pro SP1a
CPU/Ram: Athlon XP 2600+ \ 1GB DDR
Comment:

Hello. I'm looking to get a new fan\cooler for my AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (Barton). Here are my temperatures for my system:

CPU: 55C average, 60C to 65C/70C load
System: 33C average, 40C to 45C load

The system temperature seems to be very cool. That's because I have four intake fans in the front of my case, 1 outake on the rear, 1 outake on the side, and a Linkworld 430W power supply, which has two intake fans and 1 outake going out the back.

The CPU temperature, however, seems a little high, right? What cooling would you recommend for a 2600+ CPU? I've heard a Volcano 10 or 11 is good. Any ideas or opinions?



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Response Number 1
Name: Michelle67
Date: April 14, 2004 at 01:08:00 Pacific
Reply:

You said that your side fan is pulling air out of your case. If this is so then I think it is pulling air away from you cpu. You have it fighting against your cpu and fan. I have three fans in my system. The top and side fan both pull air in and the back fan pulls it out. I have an XP 2400+ and my temps hold at 34-36c for my cpu. I know the higher you go in speed the higher the temps seem to get but I would try to turn around the side fan so it is also blowing air on your cpu as well. I have a Whisper Rock fan & heatsink.


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Response Number 2
Name: Tomo
Date: April 14, 2004 at 01:21:45 Pacific
Reply:

for some reason some xps run hotter than others regardless of the amount fans installed
on my barton 2600+ i had temps in the region of 60 to 70 degrees and after spending endless amounts of money on fans an water cooling (which i binned)i changed the heatsink and fan to a volcano 7+ all copper heatsink and 5000 rpm fan that came with it
my temps now sit at around 46 degrees....52 full load.


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Response Number 3
Name: ultraxmode
Date: April 14, 2004 at 03:08:32 Pacific
Reply:

I think a ZALMAN cooling system is the right for you....

...at 10.000rpm maybe?

loading.... 100%

complete.


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Response Number 4
Name: angrymen2001
Date: April 14, 2004 at 03:20:25 Pacific
Reply:

Tomo may be right about different temps. But I have the same micro and have 1 case fan which is blowing directly on micro. My temps are around 34-38C. Michelle 67 may have a good point too. Although you have 4 intakes, the exhaust on the side seems to me like it would pull some of the cool air away from the CPU. Are you overclocking it too? If so, then your temps are probably just fine

When all else fails beat the $%!* out of it!!!


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Response Number 5
Name: Badboy
Date: April 14, 2004 at 03:26:51 Pacific
Reply:

I found that thermal paste between your CPU core and your HSF is probably the best tweak for CPU temperature management.


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Response Number 6
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 14, 2004 at 07:49:45 Pacific
Reply:

cpmusick,

Maybe it's just me, but it seems your cooling effort is focused more on the system temp rather than the CPU temp.

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Response Number 7
Name: egkenny
Date: April 14, 2004 at 08:55:25 Pacific
Reply:

I have 6 80mm case fans:
Front (2): Input
Side (1): Input
Back (2): Output
Top (1): Output

Sometimes my CPU Diode temperature would exceed 70C which caused Windows to crash. I ended up getting a Zalman cooler which only runs at 2300RPM which is half the speed of the prvious cooler. It has reduced the temperatures to:
Room: 24C
Case: 38C
CPU Diode: 47C
CPU Socket: 42C


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Response Number 8
Name: cpmusick
Date: April 14, 2004 at 13:09:59 Pacific
Reply:

Hmm. I may consider getting a zalman cooler, though I found several different ones. Which Zalman would you recommend?

Also, I'll try turning around the fan on the side to be an intake, rather than an outake.


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Response Number 9
Name: egkenny
Date: April 14, 2004 at 13:40:51 Pacific
Reply:

I have the CNPS7000A-Cu.
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnps7000a-cu.htm

There are some cosiderations though:
- Your motherboard must have 4 mount holes next to the CPU socket
- It is very heavy at 773g
- You have to be carefull moving the computer
- You must check for compatibilty

Socket 462 Motherboards' Compatibility with CNPS7000A
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnps7000a-462_motherboard_list_eng.html

The main problem with comaptibility is interference from other components. This is because this cooler is larger than the average cooler.

If this is not for you then they have several other coolers. This one just seems there best one.


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Response Number 10
Name: cpmusick
Date: April 14, 2004 at 18:31:01 Pacific
Reply:

Well, I tried changing the side fan to an intake, but it didnt really mak any difference at all. Due to severe boredom, I whipped up a picture of my PC via Photoshop. Go to this link to view it:

http://www.gtavicehq.com/other/cpmusick_pc_model.jpg

FYI: Fans 7, 8, 9, 10 are intakes on the front of the PC. Fan 5 is on the rear (outtake) and fan 6 is on the side panel (outtake). Fans 2 and 3 are on the power supply and are intakes. Fan 1 is on the back of the power supply and is an outtake. And of course fan 4 is the CPU fan.

The fans are the black circles with numbers in them. Based on my system setup, what would be the best fans to use for intakes and the ones to use for outtakes? (You can refer to each fan by its number if you want).

I also tried using my rear fan (fan number 5 in the picture) as an intake, since it's right next to the CPU fan. I figured it would pull in air and give some of it to the CPU fan to suck in. Doing that actually helped lower the system a degree or two.

As for the cooling system, my motherboard doesn't have the four mounting holes. However, I've been doing some internet surfing and have found plenty of cooling systems that don't require those holes, so that's not really a big issue.

If anyone has any other suggestions about the cooling (or anything), then feel free to let me know what they are. :)


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Response Number 11
Name: cpmusick
Date: April 14, 2004 at 21:40:06 Pacific
Reply:

Another thing I've tried, which might not actually be very good, is stack 2 cpu fans on the heatsink. I have one on the other. Now this may seem like something you don't wanna do, and actually I really don't know if it's a bad thing or not. Also, both of the fans are the same kind.

However, the CPU temperature seems to be staying right at 52C. This is just when I have it idle or when I do things like surf the internet and word applications. I'll test it with games later.

Anyone think that stacking 2 on top of each other is a bad idea?


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