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NEC laptop can't find reformat scre

Original Message
Name: NEClaptop
Date: April 10, 2008 at 19:03:31 Pacific
Subject: NEC laptop can't find reformat scre
OS: Windows ME
CPU/Ram: don't know.
Model/Manufacturer: PC-LT7000d
Comment:
Hi. I was given a NEC Japanese laptop to use at work. It was a gift and I didn't receive any discs with it. Now it's dead and I need to restore it back to factory settings. Here are the specs:

PC-LT7000D
DC15V
1702457EA
NEC LaVie
Windows ME

(I'm sorry I can't make out the kanji as to what each of those numbers is). It's a really super old computer but it's all I have at the moment.

I tried pressing every F key (one at a time)to find the NEC reformat screen, but I couldn't find it.
Do I need to purchase a new computer? or do I need to buy Vista. And if I do buy Vista, what are the chances that it would work with an ancient relic?

Thank you for any advice you could provide.



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Response Number 1
Name: aegis
Date: April 11, 2008 at 11:51:57 Pacific
Subject: NEC laptop can't find reformat scre
Reply: (edit)
Forget about Vista, you have no chance of getting the drivers for it.

You could try NEC tech support for help:
http://www.nec.com/global/support/c...


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Response Number 2
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: April 11, 2008 at 12:06:34 Pacific
Subject: NEC laptop can't find reformat scre
Reply: (edit)
Did it ever work for you?
If it did, was everything in Japanese, or did it have an English version of Windows?

What are your symptoms?

It has to at least initially boot for you to get into the bios, if the operating system won't load.

If it doesn't boot at all it could be as simple as the main battery is defective or the AC adapter is no longer properly charging it for whatever reason, and it doesn't have enough "poop" to boot the computer. Most laptops will not run on the AC adapter alone if the main battery is not installed or is too discharged.

I searched using: PC-LT7000d
and virtually all "hits" are not in English.
It's probably a Japanese language only model number, the bios text may also be in Japanese. Can you read Japanese?
There may be simlar NEC models for other languages.

How you get into the bios Setup varies on laptops. E.g. On some you must hold down an Fx key while booting to get into the Setup, not just tap it while booting. If you look at manuals for simlar old NEC laptops they probably get into the bios the same way.

If it will initially boot......

The first thing you should do is test the hard drive - are you willing to buy another one if it's no good?

Check your hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostics.
See the latter part of response 1 in this:
http://www.computing.net/windows95/...

(thanks to Dan Penny for this link:)
Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm...

If you don't have a floppy drive, you can get a CD image diagnostic utility from most hard drive manufacturer's web sites, but obviously you would need to make a burned CD, preferably a CD-R for best compatibilty, on another computer if you need to.

If you have no other way of determining the hard drive brand, remove the AC adapter, remove the main battery, and remove the hard drive and find it's brand.

If this laptop originally had ME on it, it's very likely it doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Vista, but you can still get XP and install it and it will probably be okay with that, but may be extremely slow.
Are you willing to buy more ram if you need to? XP works as it should only with 256mb and up of ram. ME works as it should with 96mb, and very well with
128mb.


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Response Number 3
Name: NEClaptop
Date: April 13, 2008 at 20:29:07 Pacific
Subject: NEC laptop can't find reformat scre
Reply: (edit)
Thank you very much for your thorough effort on this.

It boots just fine and I know how to get to the BIOS screen. The problem is that the computer crashes all the time with different programs and generally runs painfully slow. The clock is also messed up.

It worked at a reasonable pace about a year ago, but it has gotten pretty bad in the last couple of months (with no software or hardware additions).

It is indeed a Japanese computer with a Japanese version of Windows ME. I don't read Japanese, but I know my way around the english version, and the menus are pretty much the same.

I went to the English NEC site and checked FAQ and manuals for english models, but I couldn't find any information as to how to reformat without a CD.

I think it might be easier and cheaper to just buy a new computer with disks.

The whole reason why I needed a japanese computer in the first place was to be wirelessly connected to the network. The network card they gave me doesn't fit into my english computer. and my wireless internal adapter doesn't recognize the router. I may be able to find some sort of an adapter or something.

Thank you very much for all of your assistance with this, but I think I'll take another route.


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Response Number 4
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: April 14, 2008 at 15:57:27 Pacific
Subject: NEC laptop can't find reformat scre
Reply: (edit)
"The problem is that the computer crashes all the time with different programs and generally runs painfully slow."

There are all sorts of possible reasons for that.

"The clock is also messed up."

The cmos battery is probably dead or too weak. The time and date will reset to defaults every time the computer is shut off if that's the case.
Where it is and how to replace it may be in an English manual for similar NEC models. Sometimes it's under the keyboard, sometimes it's inside the case. They are usually fairly cheap to buy.

The first thing you should do is test the hard drive to rule out whether that is causing your problems - if it's faulty trying to do anything else is a waste of time.
Test the hard drive - see the info in response 2.
It costs you nothing to do so.

If there's nothing wrong with the hard drive itself, just about any software problem can be fixed, or if all else fails you could get a regular Windows CD
and re-load Windows and go from there.

If you know anyone who has been using PCs a long time they may have a Win ME or 98SE CD they are not using and could give to you or sell to you cheap. You would not have to upgrade anything if you used one of those.

Otherwise, you can get OEM XP Home for less than $100, but you have to buy at least a mouse or some other small hardware device at the same time. However, as I said above, you may need to up the amount of ram installed to get XP to run reasonably.

"....I couldn't find any information as to how to reformat without a CD."

You can download a copy of the Windows ME or 98SE Startup disk from the web (e.g. www.bootdisk.com or www.bootdisks.com or similar) and re-format the drive, but that's only the first step, and it may not solve anything if the hard drive is faulty.
You need to at least load an operating system - ME or 98SE or XP or whatever.

Brand name system builders often make Rescue CD sets available with which you can re-load what was originally on the hard drive, if your hard drive crashews or becomes faulty, but only for maybe 3 years or so.

"I think it might be easier and cheaper to just buy a new computer with disks."

At most, new brand name systems come with one Recovery CD or DVD - often they don't come with any - they almost always do not come with a regular Windows CD or DVD (although you can get them if you order them at the same time you order a computer from the US HP/Compaq site, at a reduced price).
You are supposed to make a set of Recovery CDs or DVDs while Windows is running fine yourself, using a program supplied by the brand name system builder already on the computer, preferably right after you first get the computer, so that you can restore the computer even if the hard drive fails.

"The whole reason why I needed a japanese computer in the first place was to be wirelessly connected to the network. The network card they gave me doesn't fit into my english computer." and my wireless internal adapter doesn't recognize the router."

If the NEC has a cardslot - PCMCIA slot - you can get network adapters for those cheaply.

"and my wireless internal adapter doesn't recognize the router."

There can be all sorts of reasons for that.
Have you had any experience setting up a wireless connection? It's more complicted than a regular wired connection, and in ME you must use a utilty to do it - it comes with the proper adapter, but it must have software for ME. Also, if the router is also used for a wireless connection to an XP computer, there is probably an encrption key in the router's configuration and on the XP computer that would also have to entered in the ME wireless utilitity's configuration.



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