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MSI K7T Turbo ver.3. Resistor gone?

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Name: Hexhector
Date: July 20, 2006 at 14:07:17 Pacific
OS: MSI K7T Turbo ver 3
CPU/Ram: athlon 1Ghz 256MB Ram
Product: oneself
Comment:

Hi,
I accidentally clipped a resistor next to the CPU on this motherboard (MSI K7T Turbo ver. 3) while replacing the CPU. The resistor is labelled R629
Unfortunately the resistor in question could not be located.
Does anyone know or have a schematic diagram for this motherboard so I can get the value of this resistor to have a go at replacing it.
It appears since this happened the computer will not POST even when stripped down to nothing even with previous CPU - All red diagnostic LEDs remain on, all fans spin, power light lights and the cpu gets warm but nothing else happens.
I've also noticed one of the capacitors appears to be "bulging" at the top. I will consider replacing this also if it becomes worthwhile.



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Response Number 1
Name: don2006
Date: July 20, 2006 at 14:48:38 Pacific
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Go to the manufacturer's web site and try to email or call them. That's your 0nly shot.


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Response Number 2
Name: ham30
Date: July 20, 2006 at 15:26:47 Pacific
Reply:

And that will be a waste of time. Motherboard manufacturers do not share their schematics with the public.

Resistors have color codes on them that indicate their resistance.

Do yourself a favor BACKUP!


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Response Number 3
Name: jboy
Date: July 20, 2006 at 16:15:02 Pacific
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Indeed they do - resistance is futile

You are, once again, Microsoft's bitch


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Response Number 4
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 20, 2006 at 20:17:52 Pacific
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Is it one of those small (1-2 mm long) surface mount ones? If so, are you sure it's a resistor and not a capactor? They look the same--the only way to tell the difference is to see how it's described on the board. For example, C101 would be a capacitor and R101 would be a resistor.

I've noticed that most motherboards usually use only 2 or 3 different capacitor/resistor values. It's likely there are some with the same value already there. As far as I know their size and color are the only way to match them. The last time that happened to me I found a trashed motherboard and removed a similar sized and colored resistor and soldered it in the place of the one I broke. The motherboard worked OK afterwards.


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Response Number 5
Name: blackbill
Date: July 20, 2006 at 20:41:38 Pacific
Reply:

Go to radio shack or similar and buy say a 500Kohm adjustable pot. Put it in place of the resistor and start at the highest setting (500K). Try to post. If nothing then turn it down just a little and try again. Keep going until you hit the right resistance (it may take a while so make your self a nice big pot of coffee!) Once you have found the right spot on the pot then take it out and measure its resistance. This will be the resister that you need. DO NOT ZERO OUT THE RESISTANCE OF THE POT OR YOU MAY BLOW SOMETHING!!!

The only guessing game is the resister wattage. 1/8, 1/4, or 1/2 watt. Usually they are 1/4 watt, but if you put 1/4 watt in and it starts to get quite warm then switch it to 1/2 watt.

Good luck!


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Response Number 6
Name: Hexhector
Date: July 22, 2006 at 15:11:13 Pacific
Reply:

Hi, thanks for all your advice. I can confirm it is a resistor that came off but it is one of the small surface mount ones that have only a few letters (if any) on.
There appears to be two other resistors next to and in-line with the resistor that came off. I have uploaded a picture which is hard to see as it became quite blurry but ive marked where I think the missing resitor should be. as the PCB line appears broken i.e. --(R629)-Rxxx-Rxxx-- hope that makes more sense. I'll try to get hold of a variable resistor and give that a go.
Here is the link for the pic: http://i5.tinypic.com/20r1cwn.jpg as you can see it is directly next to the cpu heatsink bracket.



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Response Number 7
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 22, 2006 at 16:16:03 Pacific
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Those 2 resistors next to it are almost certainly going to be the same as the broken one. Just find one that matches them. If you don't have a junked board then take it to an electronic parts store and let them match it. In my opinion a variable resistor, even if you can get it connected, is not the way to go. But at least try soldering in a matching one first and see if it works.


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Response Number 8
Name: Hexhector
Date: July 23, 2006 at 08:48:16 Pacific
Reply:

Cheers for the advice, I have a old board somewhere so I will look at the markings and try and find one similar and post the outcome shortly.
Thank you all again :)


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Response Number 9
Name: Hexhector
Date: July 29, 2006 at 10:09:26 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry for the delay in posting back. After closer inspection there are no markings whatsoever on the resistor. They are all black or off white in colour and rectangular in shape. The only board I have is an old Pentium 1 which would probably use different values anyway.
To the trash it goes I guess.
Thanks again for all your help and support.


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Response Number 10
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 29, 2006 at 16:33:47 Pacific
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Yeah, I don't think there are any ID markings on them. They're just too small. The only way to identify them is by color and size. Look in the yellow pages under 'electronic equipment and supplies' and see if there's any electronic parts stores in your area. You might even try radio shack. Then just take the motherboard to them and see if they an ID the ones next to the broken one.


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