http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e... Please use that link to view a couple of poor quality camera phone shots ive taken. The rails are a pair of black plastic (in this case) strips that are screwed to the side of the drive and slide into a gap in the server bay where they "clip" home. I measured the DAT drive and the exact dimensions are 5.75" wide by 1.5" high. Worldlibrary - if the rails you have are ANYTHING like those in the picture (ebay link below) i would be most grateful for the chance to give them a try! Some of the ebay links you have posted are very close to what i need, specifically http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Poweredge-... just from looking at the picture.

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Balls, hold on... ill give you each link and not the sub-album... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... There, that best have worked.

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A pic of the rails on the existing DAT may have been more useful since it's what you've got to match. But as near as I can tell, the drive rails Dell used on the poweredge were pretty much the same as their older ones. The one you linked to in #7 above is the wider type I've pulled off older optiplex. Narrower ones--which I think you need--seem to have a universal fit too. Here's a generic ebay search: http://computers.search-desc.ebay.c... All seem to be one of the two types---narrow or wide. The narrow ones are the same width as the older AT style slides although the AT slides didn't have the snap-in feature. The only question may be if they will snap in correctly. I'm sure the drive will slide in OK using these rails but the rail notch may not match up with the case snap-in slot. Personally I think it'll line up OK since it's all Dell stuff. But even if it doesn't, often the rails fit so tightly that additional anchoring isn't necessary. You may end up having to do some jury-rigging. Sometimes the rail will protrude too far toward the front and prevent the case front panel from attaching. In that case you may need to cut off the excess. I should have both types around here somewhere. If you can be somewhat certain which you need I can send them.

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Here's the exact dell part for that: http://www.impactcomputers.com/n210... $60 (and that's the sale price)! And it's only for one! I think you're better off using one of the ones I described above.

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Hi, It has been over three years since I was in my ftp site...so I have forgotten login and passwords.....and yes even how to set up our ftp program.... Feel free to laugh..........I am. Here is what I have. If you see a set that might work let me know. Looks like you need the new screwless type, until you try to buy a set. Hope this pick comes out. http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/l/wlibrar... W.L.

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Guys, your responses have been amazing thank you for your help! The reason i havent taken photos of the existing drives rails is that involves me taking the side of the case off, turning off the server and disconnecting the drive. In a busy company i dont think i'd be very popular killing the server for even as little as 10 minutes. I am trying to arrange some time (probably at the end of the day) when i would be able to do this. With regards to the drive rails, the ones DAVEINCAPS picked out at "Impact" do look right. Until i get the drive out i cant properly check, however the £60 + UK postage might not go down too well. Worldlibrary - i am very keen to try a couple of your rails before i have to hit the boss with a big bill. Having measured from the front of the bay, the rail (end-on) is 7mm wide in the slot and 15mm tall, i cant tell (yet) how far back the rail runs or where the holes and slots are along it. Do you have anything approx 7x15mm in profile in that impressive collection of yours?! Again, thanks for your help guys, really much appreciated. Ollie

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OK, now managed to get some server downtime, heres the pictures and full specs / measurements:- Rails are 18mm high, 155mm long and 8mm wide. There is a screw hole 48-50mm from the front, and a second 120-128mm from the front. The 'clip ridge' is 75mm back from the front and it is 146mm until it tapers at the rear (not important). http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e... Anyone have anything that might suit, or even with a bit of hacksaw manipulation perhaps? Ollie

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You could use a little to a lot more light on the subject when you take those pictures. I poked around on the Dell site and it appears the official rail part number you use with a tape backup unit is N2107 for a PE 2800. Nothing for N2107 on ebay. Searching with: N2107 Dell on Yahoo, lots of "hits" - many are on Russian sites, if you can translate - some "hits" are for a Dell xxxx 5150 or 5xxx - ignore those If nothing else the pictures along with your measurements could be useful to those who have Dell rails lying around. Did you look for a part number on the rail when you had the tape unit removed? If so, if you found one, what is it? E.g. N2107 $59 each http://codemicro.com/store/check_pr... $60 each - picture - looks exactly the same to me http://www.impactcomputers.com/n210... get a quote http://www.servicesource.co.uk/fram... Many more on Russian sites.

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$112.50 each - gimme a break! http://www.ezsystems.com/frames/tes...

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Some of those may be a kit for the DAT installation which also includes some adapters. Still--way to expensive. As I mentioned in #11, you're probably better off trying the other Dell rails. Yes, I've used hacksaws, files and drills to make a rail fit. WorldLibrary's photo shows some of his that should work. Since he's got them out already he could probably give you more exact measurements.

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Hmmm, First find my metric ruler... Everything I have is 15 20 or 25 high. The holes don't line up either...well a drill can take care of that ,but from one of the picks the backup you have has multible holes. The 15 will be sloppy and the 20 a real push to get in. Two mm is about as big as any of the letters in this post. If you want to try a pair the black ones seem to be the closest and you are welcome to a set. Did some looking myself for dell rails. Seems every one needs them. I guess I am missing out on this as I have 4 dells and not a one uses rails. Thought. I have a tape backup 4 inches 102 mm that goes into a 5.75 cdrom 142 mm slot using a tray and front bezel. Does your machine allow for this? Still digging through boxes of stuff. W.L.

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"Some of those may be a kit for the DAT installation which also includes some adapters." N2107 is in some kits, but it's just the rail. "In a busy company i dont think i'd be very popular killing the server for even as little as 10 minutes." In that case, I doubt the cost of the rails is a problem.

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The rather pricy rails that you have highlighted above are the spot on ones... N2107. Worldlibrary, i would be greatful if you could send me some of those rails that you think would be the best fit - i'm pretty handy with a drill ;) I believe you should have my address from the signature on my email? If you have Paypal i can send you some pennies to cover postage? Ollie

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Well no I cannot find your snail mail address. Have sent an email to you but it is possible it was regarded as spam and deleted by your server. The address at World Library is. wlibrary@bellsouth.net Subject ...rails. W.L.

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