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Name: satimis
Date: September 11, 2004 at 08:48:23 Pacific
OS: Gentoo 1.4
CPU/Ram: PII-350/256MB
Comment:

Hi folks,

I'm prepared to upgrade a K6 PC to following config;

CPU – AMD Athlon X 2600+/2800+ 512K
RAM – 1G, DDR400
Hard drive – SATA

I have been searching for a new motherboard and found following boards interested;

1)
Gigabyte GA7UT600-1394

http://tw.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_Spec_GA-7VT600%201394.htm
Chipset
1. Northbridge : VIA KT600
2. Southbridge : VIA 8237
3. Integrated peripherals
1. VIA VT6306 IEEE1394 controller
2. Realtek Ethernet 10/100Mb LAN chip
4.Realtek ALC655 AC97 codec Chip

Internal I/O Connectors
1. 1 x FDD port
2. 2 x UDMA ATA133/100/66 Bus Master IDE ports
3. 2 x IEEE 1394 connectors(support 3 ports)
4. 2 x USB 2.0 connectors (support 4 ports)
5. 1 x GAME/ MIDI connector
6.2 x Serial ATA connectors

Front Side Bus

1. 400/333/266/200 MHz FSB

Memory
1. Type : DDR400(PC3200)/ DDR333 (PC2700) / DDR266 (PC2100) -184pin
2. Max capacity : 3GB
3. DIMM slots: 3 [/code]


2)
ASUS A7V600X
North America
http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A7V600-X&langs=09
CPU Socket A for AMD Athlon XP/Athlon / Duron
Thoroughbred/ Barton Core Support

Chipset VIA KT600
VIA VT8237

FSB 400/333/266/200MHz

Memory 3 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max. 3GB unbuffered non-ECC PC3200/PC2700/2100 DDR SDRAM memory

Expansion Slots 1 x AGP 8X
6 x PCI

Storage 2 x UltraDMA 133/100
2 x Serial ATA with RAID 0, 1 function

Audio ADI AD1888 6-channel CODEC
S/PDIF out interface

LAN Integrated 10/100 Mbps LAN controller with external PHY[/code]


3)
2thMax 8RDA3I Pro
Socket A Motherboard
http://www1.2themax.com/products/mainboard/details.asp?board_id=51330

http://www1.2themax.com/products/8rda3ipro.htm
New nVidia nForce2 Ultra 400 + RAID MCP AGPset chipset
Supports socket-462 based AMD Athlon XP processors
Support DDR400/333/266

On Board P-ATA IDE:
* 2 IDE ports (up to 4 IDE devices) with UDMA-33, ATA-66/100/133 support from embedded IDE controller.

onboard S-ATA:
* 2 x S-ATA ports from RAID MCP with up to 150MBps bandwidth.

On Board LAN:
* 1 x RJ45 from onboard Realtek RTL8201CL 10/100Mb Fast Ethernet PHY.

DRAM Memory:
* 3 x 184-pin DDR SDRAM DIMM sockets.
* Supports single or double sided 2.5v DDR-266/333/400 DIMMs with dual channel architecture in 128/256/512Mb technologies.
* Supports up to 3GB system memory.

On Board LAN:
* 1 x RJ45 from onboard Realtek RTL8201CL 10/100Mb Fast Ethernet PHY.[/code]

Kindly advise and comment.

Besides is there much difference in performance between AMD Athlon X 2500+ and 2600+

TIA

B.R.
satimis




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Response Number 1
Name: Sabertooth
Date: September 11, 2004 at 10:48:43 Pacific
Reply:

If you are planning on overclocking get the NF7-S rev 2.0 from ABIT or the Infinity from DFI, those boards are very good. But I will suggest you consider a 64-bit upgrade considering the timing of this upgrade.


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Response Number 2
Name: Lizette
Date: September 11, 2004 at 13:36:45 Pacific
Reply:

VIA KT600 chipsets don't perform that well with Socket A.
I have one Asus A7V8X-X motherboard which im NOT too fond about. (Other Asus products are excellent though)
Here's an interesting article you might want to read:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-a7v600.html
My advice would be, stick with an Asus motherboard, but get one with an nVidia nForce chipset.


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Response Number 3
Name: giggles
Date: September 11, 2004 at 17:18:22 Pacific
Reply:

*my 2 cents* a 7200rpm sata harddrive is not always better than a 7200rpm pata harddrive and sometimes worse than the pata drive
if you are going to get a sata drive make sure that it is a 10000rpm drive or faster because then you will definetly have performance increase over pata

and if you're looking at prices you will like this advice because 7200rpm sata harddrives cost $20-$50 more than 7200rpm pata harddrives
*just my 2 cents*

^(-.-)~~~]>:}>


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Response Number 4
Name: satimis
Date: September 12, 2004 at 15:07:31 Pacific
Reply:

Hi folks,

Tks for your advice.

Re SATA
I won't get it immediately because not many selection with 10000 rpm available on market and its price not attractive. For such reason I need both PATA and SATA ports.

In fact I'm more interested on 64 bit AMD CPU taking into consideration of the timing of this upgrade. However most software available are 32 bit. It sounds that I may own a powerful race car able to run 300+ KM but the speed limit on road is 100 KM.

One further question, is there any disadvantage/problem in running 32 bit software on 64 bit CPU?

B.R.
satimis


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Response Number 5
Name: giggles
Date: September 12, 2004 at 18:17:42 Pacific
Reply:

" is there any disadvantage/problem in running 32 bit software on 64 bit CPU?"

no, 64bit processors are in fact better at 32bit software than 32bit processors are

wow! i just saw at the top you are currently using a PII 350 and 256 mb ram, this will be a big upgrade lol

may i suggest a harddrive for you?
the western digital caviar sseries is really good
i have 2 of the 80gig 800JB models and one of the 120gig 1200JB models
they were all cheap $50-bestbuy for the 80gig ones and $40 for the 120gig-circuit city after mail in rebates

arguably the very best pata harddrive is the western digital 2500JB
it costs about $160

^(-.-)~~~]>:}>


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Response Number 6
Name: satimis
Date: September 13, 2004 at 10:00:42 Pacific
Reply:

HI giggles,

Tks for your advice.

I'm answering this posting from a Athlon 1.4 PC.

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 4
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) processor
stepping : 4
cpu MHz : 1397.367
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips : 2744.32

total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 503 500 3 0 22 269
-/+ buffers/cache: 208 295
Swap: 1019 0 1019

Sorry for not having those information changed.

I found following combination may meet my target;

Athlon64 2800+ 512K cache
Gigabyte GA-K8S760M motherboard
RAM 512MB (upgrade to 1024MB later)

Any comment on GA-K8S760M motherboard;
http://tw.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_Spec_GA-K8S760M.htm
SiS 760 chipset

Processor
Socket 754 for AMD Athlon64

Chipset
SiS 760 Chipset
SiS 964 Chipset
Super I/O: ITE IT8705 chip
Integrated peripherials
Realtek 8100C Ethernet controller
Realtek ALC655 Audio AC'97 Codec
Local Frame Buffer memory 64 MB

Memory
Type: DDR400/ 333/ 266- 184pin
Max capacity: Up to 2GB by 2 DIMM slots

Internal I/O Connectors
2 x Serial ATA connector
2 x UDMA ATA 133/100/66 Bus Master IDE connectors
1 x FDD connector
2 x USB 2.0/1.1 connectors (supports 4 ports)
S/P DIF input/output pin header
2 x cooling fan pin headers
CD/AUX in
1 x Game/Midi connector
1 x COM connector

Expansion Slots
1 x AGP slot (8x/4x-AGP 3.0 compliant), supports 1.5v display card only.
3 x PCI slots (PCI 2.2 compliant)

Rear Panel I/O

PS/2 Keyboard / Mouse
4 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports
1 x VGA port
1 x RJ45 port
1 x COM ports
1 x LPT
Audio (1 x Line-in / 1 x Line-out / 1 x Mic) connector

CPU/AGP/DIMM setting
CPU FSB adjustable via BIOS

Power
ATX power connector and ATX 12V connector
Power-off by Windows 98/ Me/ 2000/ XP shut down and switch

Form Factor
Micro ATX form factor
24.4 x 24.4 cm

H/W Monitoring

System health status auto-detect and report by BIOS
Hardware detecting and reporting for case open, CPU voltage, and fan speed.

BIOS
2M bit flash ROM, Award BIOS

Other Features
Xpress Installation,
Xpress Recovery
Xpress BIOS rescue
Q-Flash
@BIOS

I need both PATA and SATA ports because I won't get a SATA ncq (native command queuing) nor 10000 rpm SATA immediately, waiting their price down. I'll continue using the old ATA-133 7200 rpm hard drive first.

Any advice. TIA

B.R.
satimis



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