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Name: sccass12
Date: March 5, 2006 at 08:52:13 Pacific
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: 512 DDR
Product: Dell
Comment:

I bought an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard new out of the box, and
a Athlon XP CPU from eBay also new. The problem I am having is that it
will not POST. I have taken all PCI cards out and unhooked all CDROMS
and Hard drives and still get not peep codes. How can I tell if it is the
Processor or Motherboard that is bad.

Note: all PCI cards and hard drives work with my old motherboard.

Steve


Thanks,
Steve



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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: March 5, 2006 at 09:40:57 Pacific
Reply:

Rule # 1...always benchtest a board before installing it in the case. It saves you from going thru the hassle of installing it, only to find out it doesn't work.

Now you don't know if it's the board, CPU, power supply, or something shorting out on the case.

Are you sure your PSU is good?


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Response Number 2
Name: ham30
Date: March 5, 2006 at 09:49:25 Pacific
Reply:

A common mistake is to install a motherboard mounting stud where there is no hole in the motherboard.

Sorry, I do not check for private messages


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Response Number 3
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 5, 2006 at 10:53:58 Pacific
Reply:

If you did not make sure the ram you are using is compatible with your mboard, a common cause of no post is you are trying to use ram that is incomptible with your mboard - there may be nothing wrong with your mboard, cpu, and power supply.
A bench test will fail if you have the wrong ram.
You can go to the web site of any major memory module manufacturer or distributor and look up which modules work in your mboard for sure.
Also see this, particularly response 12:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/41305.html


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Response Number 4
Name: cliffpage
Date: March 6, 2006 at 11:13:08 Pacific
Reply:

i had a ASUS A7V8X which is not quite the same as yours.
This had 'speaking' error codes instead of beeps.
It had a ram problem one day and would not boot. if i turned speakers on and turned volume right up there was a voice saying: System falied memory test.
Does yours have this same speaking function built in - plug speakers in and turn volume right up and see if it does.
It could do all sorts of messages like:
No cpu installed
System failed CPU test
System failed VGA test
Could provide the answer.
Let us know


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Response Number 5
Name: sccass12
Date: March 6, 2006 at 21:08:55 Pacific
Reply:

The power supply was new and the ram was tested and is good. The ram I used was correct.

Yes mine does have the voice for for error codes. But nothing came over the speaker I had pluged into the motherboard.

Thanks,
Steve


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Response Number 6
Name: cliffpage
Date: March 7, 2006 at 05:52:48 Pacific
Reply:

you mention the speaker plugged into the motherboard.
On mine it had to be the 'proper' speakers plugged into the normal green speaker socket on the back of the computer in order to hear the 'system failed memory test' etc messages.
I know that sounds odd as you'd think those speakers would only work if booted into windows and loaded sound drivers , but I can assure you that's how this function worked on mine.


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Response Number 7
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 7, 2006 at 08:31:04 Pacific
Reply:

The ram working in another mboard doesn't prove much other than there is nothing wrong with it. It must be listed as compatible with your mboard, or have the same specific specs as compatible modules. Having the right PCxxxx rating and size isn't all there is to it.

You didn't say which XP cpu you were trying to use in it. The cpu support listings often quote which bios version you must have in order to support all the cpus listed, or which version you must have to support a particular cpu.
If your bios version is not new enough for the cpu you are trying to use, either the mboard bios will run the cpu at defaults, or the mboard will not post at all. In the latter case, you must install a lesser cpu the bios version does support and will boot with, flash the bios, then install the cpu that was until then not detected properly, and it should be detected fine and the mboard will boot properly.
In addition, if you are trying to use an XP cpu meant to be used in a mobile application, as in meant for a laptop or notebook, many desktop mboards will not support mobile cpu's.
For example I have a GA-7ZMMH mboard that will take an XP 2600+ maximum, 266mhz FSB, but it cannot use the XP 2600+ 266mhz fsb mobile cpus (different ID codes, lower core voltages). It is relatively easy to get the mobile versions on e-bay - the desktop version I need is relatively rare and only available used.


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Response Number 8
Name: sccass12
Date: March 7, 2006 at 19:55:43 Pacific
Reply:

Tubesandwires

good information. I did not know that. The below is the type of CPU I have and motherboard and what it should be able to handle.

CPU
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 256KB 333MHz (AXDA2600DKV4D)

Motherboard

A7N8X-E Deluxe

Socet A for AMD Duron/AMD Athlon/ AMD Athlon XP 3200 + processors

(FSB) 400/333/266/200Mhz

Cliffpage

I will try what you said about hooking the exturnal speaker up and not the motherboard speaker to hear the 'system failed memory test' Message

Thanks all Good INFO

Thanks,
Steve


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Response Number 9
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 8, 2006 at 10:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

AXDA2600DKV4D appears to be a desktop rather than a mobile cpu, so you're probably okay with that.


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Response Number 10
Name: Raypv
Date: March 10, 2006 at 09:56:41 Pacific
Reply:

I had the same problem, it was an inproperly seated cpu

Ray


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