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Missing both the D and E drives.

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Name: Richard
Date: November 21, 2003 at 06:05:06 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Home SP1
CPU/Ram: IP4, 2.66 GHz, 512MB
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I’ve managed to “lose” both CD Drives. :(

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Hey guys,

Basically, both my D and E drives no longer work. Whereas they were once listed under My Computer, now there is nothing. When I put a CD in the drive, nothing happens. The D drive was a DVD reader as well, and the E was a Burner.

They’re simply… missing.

I’m pretty useless with computers as it is, and I’m extremely worried. What information do you need about my computer in order to help out, and how would I retrieve it?

Thanks a bunch,

Richard



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Response Number 1
Name: TopFarmer
Date: November 21, 2003 at 06:31:16 Pacific
Reply:

Hi
first off it would help to know if you messed with any settings, anded hardware or software? Or anything else you might of done to cause this problem. DO not get me wrong I'm not saying that you did do anything, just might have.


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Response Number 2
Name: Free Weasel
Date: November 21, 2003 at 06:42:02 Pacific
Reply:

Doesn't sound good!
Could be a broken ide cable but normally they don't break in a closed case. Otherwise I had the same with a friends mainboard power cable and he never opened his case!

If both drives are linked to the same ide data cable I think one of the two drives is gone bad and because of it the other can't be detected anymore.
First check if the lamp at the front goes on at booting or if the cd tray opens. Otherwise check the power connections first.
Next connect both cd drives as slave to your harddrive (first one, then the other). You have to change the jumper on the master cd drive and check the harddrive jumper settings because some harddrives need different settings if they are alone on a ide cable or with a slave present (for example moster Western Digital harddrives).

If both drives show up it should be the ide cable, if one doesn't show that drive should be bad. If both drives don't show you should look for something else because it's unlikely that they both fail at the same time!


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Response Number 3
Name: Richard
Date: November 21, 2003 at 06:45:30 Pacific
Reply:

Hi,

No problem – I usually do stuff wrong. ;D

In the last couple of days, I’ve only downloaded 2 things that would have effected it – CloneCD, which I have since removed, and Insektor which I have also since removed. When I installed Insektor, it talked about adding a new Driver, so I just followed the instructions. When I uninstalled it, I clicked on the “remove driver” option, rebooted the computer, and then unistalled.

Here’s hoping I’ve given you something to work with.

Thanks for your help,

Richard


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Response Number 4
Name: Richard
Date: November 21, 2003 at 06:56:18 Pacific
Reply:

Free Weasel,

“Doesn't sound good!”

Uh-oh!

“Could be a broken ide cable but normally they don't break in a closed case. Otherwise I had the same with a friends mainboard power cable and he never opened his case!”

Yep, I have a closed case, and I haven’t moved the computer for about 3 months!

“If both drives are linked to the same ide data cable I think one of the two drives is gone bad and because of it the other can't be detected anymore.
First check if the lamp at the front goes on at booting or if the cd tray opens. Otherwise check the power connections first.”

The two drives' lamps definitely shone and flickered on boot, and both drives open and close when I press the buttons.

“Next connect both cd drives as slave to your harddrive (first one, then the other). You have to change the jumper on the master cd drive and check the harddrive jumper settings because some harddrives need different settings if they are alone on a ide cable or with a slave present (for example moster Western Digital harddrives).”

Okay, here you lose me! What do you mean by connecting it as slave to the harddrive? Pardon my ignorance, but I’m not very good with computers!

Thanks for all your help,

I truly appreciate it,

Richard


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Response Number 5
Name: TopFarmer
Date: November 21, 2003 at 06:58:49 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Due to a program i downloaded and installed , my comp freezes and now will do a clean install of win98. so it happans to all i bet.:( do not know winxp so will not give possible bad advice.


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Response Number 6
Name: Kurt
Date: November 21, 2003 at 07:48:57 Pacific
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the missing drives is due to a glitch in XP when burning software goes awray.

It's an easy fix look here (and ignore the part about this being for EZCD, it happens with all burning software)

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;270008


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Response Number 7
Name: Richard
Date: November 21, 2003 at 07:59:15 Pacific
Reply:

Hey Kurt,

Before I begin:

"Method One

Remove the Upperfilters and Lowerfilters values completely from the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"

What does it mean by Upperfilters and Lowerfilters?

Thanks for your help.

Here's hoping this method will work!

Yours,

Richard



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Response Number 8
Name: Richard
Date: November 21, 2003 at 08:24:10 Pacific
Reply:

Hmmm... I see the problem.

That fix was for people with a message in device manager that showed Code 31 (or 39).

When I go into the Device Manager, I see a message that says, "Windows successfully loaded the device driver for this hardware but cannot find the hardware device. (Code 41)".

Any thoughts?


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Response Number 9
Name: Richard
Date: November 21, 2003 at 08:56:36 Pacific
Reply:

I've just spent the last 20 minutes searching, and all of the fixes listed don't work.

There's no "Upperfilters" or "Lowerfilters" in the registry key mentioned.

Do I need to uninstall something before this will work?

Yours with thanks,

Richard


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Response Number 10
Name: Kurt
Date: November 21, 2003 at 10:36:54 Pacific
Reply:

there are several variants to this. You don't nessessarily need to see the error codes. I do find it strange that you don't see the upper and lower filters though.

Hey, just for giggles, try re-installing your regular burning software. Reboot and see if that fixes it.


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Response Number 11
Name: thom
Date: November 21, 2003 at 11:49:46 Pacific
Reply:

Well I'll be jiggered! The exact same thing happened to me yesterday - both my cd drives disappeared. Spooky! A new virus afoot? But I applied the reg edit (Upperfilters,Lowerfilters) and my world is right-side up again. Much thanx guys for invaluable input.


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Response Number 12
Name: Kurt
Date: November 21, 2003 at 12:07:49 Pacific
Reply:

Nope, not a virus, just a Windows XP problem. It's been happening since XP was first introduced. Glad to see you got it sorted out.



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Response Number 13
Name: Richard
Date: November 21, 2003 at 14:05:28 Pacific
Reply:

Ahhhh! At last!

I extremely happy to report that my problem has been solved by the use of this registry checking tool:

ftp://ftp6.nero.com/RegistryChecker.exe

For anyone else with this trouble, that's what you do.

Thanks once again Kurt for your help.

Yours,

Richard


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Response Number 14
Name: Kurt
Date: November 21, 2003 at 15:14:10 Pacific
Reply:

You're welcome, thank for the link to the tool.

Since I don't run XP, I have no way of seeing what the tool does. Could you enlighten me a little?


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