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Name: zombiespiderman
Date: December 15, 2007 at 16:10:13 Pacific
OS: WinXP
CPU/Ram: Pentium 4 3.0GHz 3Gig
Product: Dell Dimension 8400
Comment:

Hello all. I have a Dell Dimension 8400 that seems to be about to give up the ghost. I have been told by various people that the problem is the motherboard, but I've also been told that replacing the old motherboard in a Dell is no small task. I would like to, if possible, replace everything except the Hard Drive, RAM and Video Card, if that's possible. I'm particularly keen on keeping the hard drive, since I've got all my stuff in there the way I like it AND because I have a perfectly valid WinXP install. Can someone give me some solid information on how doable something like this is?



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Name: OtheHill
Date: December 15, 2007 at 16:18:35 Pacific
Reply:

"I have a perfectly valid WinXP install".

The problem you have is that WinXP install is only valid for THAT EXACT computer. You can migrate the harddrive to a different computer as a slave.

Some people claim some success with moving an OEM HDrive to a different computer but doing so is iffy at best. Usually success is when staying within the OEM realm and within similiar hardware. You can try but I wouldn't count one it working.


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Response Number 2
Name: mountain
Date: December 15, 2007 at 19:21:14 Pacific
Reply:

that dell mb is easy to change. i do it all the time.
the mb's come mounted on a snap in tray.
i have 2 of the 8400's.
just unplug all the stuff, snap out the mb, snap in the new, reconnect, etc, presto, its done, easily


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: December 15, 2007 at 20:07:10 Pacific
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"I have a Dell Dimension 8400 that seems to be about to give up the ghost. I have been told by various people that the problem is the motherboard"

As OtheHill said, your current XP install will only work with the stock Dell 8400 motherboard. If you were to change boards, XP would no longer boot & your Dell CDs would be useless for a repair. The only way around it would be to replace the board with the exact same model.

How about explaining the symptoms...it *may* not be the board at all.


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Response Number 4
Name: aegis
Date: December 15, 2007 at 21:21:30 Pacific
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Excellent advice above! It's almost impossible to diagnose a defective motherboard without a lot of work. You would have to disconnect all the devices connected to the motherboard and you would also have to eliminate the power supply as the problem.


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Response Number 5
Name: zombiespiderman
Date: December 16, 2007 at 11:21:20 Pacific
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The problem with my system is that, for the last nine months or so, any time I shut the computer down for a few hours, when I went to start it up again, the fan on the heat sink went crazy, like it was a jet trying to take off. If I just restarted, it was fine, so I pretty much left it on 24/7. When I finally took it to a computer repair place, described the symptoms and told the guy it was a Dell, he shook his head and said "Motherboard". That's the sum total of my reasoning behind it being a mobo issue.

Right now, I'm leaning strongly towards just building a whole new system from the ground up. I have a friend who's done it before and we've found all the other components (mobo, processor, case, RAM) for under $400. If I'm hearing that the idea of putting the old HD into this setup isn't going to work, I may just go ahead and throw down the additional $200 or so for a new HD and WinXP install. Anyone know where you can get that cheap?


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Response Number 6
Name: Bobthearch
Date: December 16, 2007 at 19:49:03 Pacific
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I'm leaning strongly towards just building a whole new system from the ground up... I may just go ahead and throw down the additional $200 or so for a new HD and WinXP install.

$200 is way too much. A new hard drive, depending on the size, is $45. New OEM copy of Windows XP is $90. So $135 for both from www.newegg.com .

Reusing components is an excellent way to save $$ and avoid waste. No reason not to use your existing hard drive as long as there aren't any bad sectors.


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Response Number 7
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 17, 2007 at 01:08:06 Pacific
Reply:

zombie

Bobthearch is absolutely correct. My felling is that if you have a working system that is too slow then religate it to a different task.

In your case the computer seems to be undependable so canabizing it makes some sense. The harddrive can be reused. The installed OEM version of WinXP is what you would have problems with. If your optical drives are still functioning you might want to migrate those to a new system too.

When planning a new system keep in mind that the industry is going to SATA interface drives. Your drives are probably IDE/ATA. In order to use the old stuff you need IDE/ATA controller/s on the new MBoard or need to buy a controller card.

Most new MBoard designs allow for at least one IDE channel, which will allow you to connect two drives (hard or optical).

If you decide to move forward with this I suggest you research and after making tentative selections post back in CN hardware forum for advice.


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Response Number 8
Name: Ghostman 1
Date: December 18, 2007 at 06:51:05 Pacific
Reply:

If that computer still runs/works , Why don't you just BURN all your stuff too disk ?
Then just replace the motherboard , IF that is the problem.. I would replace the heatsink and
fan first to see if that is the problem..


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Response Number 9
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 18, 2007 at 07:11:41 Pacific
Reply:

Ghostman 1

The price Dell charges for a MBoard is high.


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Response Number 10
Name: zombiespiderman
Date: December 19, 2007 at 18:31:17 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah, now it won't even boot up, so it's a done deal. I need stuff off the hard drive, so I don't want to overwrite it with a new install of WinXP. Unless is there maybe a way to install a new WinXP installation on the HD without overwriting all the existing data?


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Response Number 11
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 19, 2007 at 18:43:24 Pacific
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Installing a second instance is not a good idea. Just install the drive in a different working computer that can read NTFS files. Don't configure it as the boot drive. You may need to take ownership of the files. To do that look at the link below.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421


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Response Number 12
Name: zombiespiderman
Date: December 20, 2007 at 05:30:04 Pacific
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I think I'm probably going to just get an external HD enclosure to pull all the files off the drive, OR I'll just install it as a secondary drive. But I suppose I'll have to eradicate those existing WinXP files, won't I?


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Response Number 13
Name: Ghostman 1
Date: December 20, 2007 at 06:26:25 Pacific
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OtheHill

I know All Dell stuff is High, I did not say replace with a Dell, It doesn't have to be a Dell Motherboard..


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Response Number 14
Name: Ghostman 1
Date: December 20, 2007 at 06:39:08 Pacific
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zombiespiderman:

check here for new motherboard..
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?in...


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