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Name: mking (by mkingrey)
Date: September 28, 2005 at 18:33:03 Pacific
OS: xp/98
CPU/Ram: 866 mhz / 256 mb
Comment:

While attempting to upgrade from 98 to XP onto my hard drive I encountered bad sector errors that wouldn't allow for the completion of the installation. Using fdisk and format wouldn't repair the problem so I decided to use a low level format utility. I then revieved an error during the LLF. Now my bios will not recognize the hard drive and if I try to run fdisk it says "no fixed disk present." I also tried to run the LLF utility again and it does not recognize any drives. Is this thing toast or is there something I can do to fix it?




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Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 28, 2005 at 19:28:19 Pacific
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What's the model # of the drive and what was the name of the LLF you used?

Most actual LLFs (in contrast to a zero fill utility) were designed for older drives. Running them on newer drives can have questionable results.


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Response Number 2
Name: mking (by mkingrey)
Date: September 28, 2005 at 19:33:20 Pacific
Reply:

its an IBM Deskstar 20.4 Gig
Model: IC35L020AVER07-0

I used Maxtor LLF Utility (maxllf.exe)


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Response Number 3
Name: name
Date: September 28, 2005 at 19:44:17 Pacific
Reply:

go to the IBM page, THEY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT and look for diagnostics and utilities for their drives.


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Response Number 4
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 28, 2005 at 20:25:35 Pacific
Reply:

Maxllf is a good one. I just used it to LLF a 3.2 gig quantum because the bios wasn't seeing it as LBA. But I wouldn't want to use it on a drive that large. You should have tried a zero fill first.

There's an IBM version of diskmanager, DM_2000.EXE, that probably will have an LLF included. If you google the file name you should be able to find a download site. It's a 7 meg file. If possible, run that on the drive. If the drive is already shot it may not work but you should give it a try.

I uploaded a generic version of diskmanager here. You could try it too. You can still use 'drivers' and 'all' for user and password.

But there's a good chance the drive is shot.


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Response Number 5
Name: plainandsimple
Date: September 28, 2005 at 22:19:13 Pacific
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http://www.killdisk.com

This will run from a system booted into DOS, a W98SE boot floppy is ideal for booting.

Though if the HDD has bad sectors it is probably toast anyway....................


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Response Number 6
Name: Richard59
Date: September 29, 2005 at 01:17:37 Pacific
Reply:

"IBM Deskstar"
Sometimes called a Deathstar.

Ditch it

I used to have a signature but it disappeared and I just couldn't be bothered writing another so please feel free to ingore this.


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Response Number 7
Name: Mike Newcomb
Date: September 29, 2005 at 10:15:55 Pacific
Reply:

I always find it best to use the llf program from the maker of the hdd concerned. This way there is (generally) no compatability problem.

You have to llf, then fdisk before the bios will see the hdd. Then you can format.

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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Response Number 8
Name: mking (by mkingrey)
Date: September 29, 2005 at 13:42:53 Pacific
Reply:

OK I downloaded the Hitachi Drive Fitness test utility. This conatins a LLF and is apparently the correct utility for DESKSTAR GX60 (I guess Hitachi supports IBM drives now) This utility detected the drive and found some bad segements. Then I tried to use the utility to LLF and it got about 95% done and then froze. When I rebooted it will no longer recognize that a drive is connected. This was a refurbished drive from CompGeeks.com and I guess its dead.

thanks for the help anyways!!


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Response Number 9
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 29, 2005 at 13:58:17 Pacific
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Since the problem seems to be in the last 5% of the drive, if you can get it recognized again, partition it to something less than 95% of the drive. That way you won't have to bother with the bad area.


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