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Installing new video card on old computer

April 23, 2011 at 07:27:20
Specs: XP , Intel

Hi, There are several similar questions to mine, but I do think that this is a special case so I will try a new thread ...
I have a computer that is a couple of years old. The video card stopped working (the fan crashed and the card broke ...). Now I have a new video card, but the system does of course not have any drivers to the card; so it will not start working.
I am totally ok with initiating the system from scratch if needed, what do I do?

Niklas


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#1
April 23, 2011 at 07:42:49

Didn't the new card come with a CD with drivers of some type? If so, you should be OK to boot to Windows, but expect it to be less than the optimum settings for your machine (probably something like 640x480@16 colors) until you get the drivers installed.

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#2
April 23, 2011 at 07:46:06

No, nothing happens - that is on the display.
The fan on the video card is running, so it has power.
I believe that the new card is a lot more advanced.

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#3
April 23, 2011 at 08:29:07

Tell us the make and model of your brand name system, or if you have a generic desktop system, the make and model of the mboard.

The specific model of a brand name system is often shown on a label on the outside of the case somewhere, or it can often be determined by going to the brand name's web site and loading a program they have available, if Windows is still working, on the subject computer.

If it's a Dell computer...
Go here for how to find the Service tag "number":
http://support.dell.com/support/top...

Tell us what it is.

If it's a HP or Compaq computer.....
Go here:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/search.aspx
Scroll down a bit.
Look for the similar label on the outside of your computer.
Quote the specific model number - that's at the end of the first line.
Quote the Product number - that's on the third line.

The model, sometimes the make, of a mboard in a generic desktop system is usually printed on the mboard's surface in obvious larger characters, often between the slots.
..............

The video card DOES NOT need drivers before Windows loads. The video card and the mboard always support basic video before Windows loads, and Windows supports basic video before specific video drivers have been loaded for the card's video chipset.

There is no reason for you to have no video while booting unless...

- your mboard has onboard video as well and supports Hybrid video but the video chipset on the card in the slot does not support Hybrid video with the particular main chipset - in that case you need to change settings in the bios.

- the video chipset on the card you installed in a slot draws a lot more power (amps at +12v) and your existing power supply does not have enough capacity to handle that (See below).

-the video card is NOT all the way down in it's slot - check that.

- you damaged the video card or the circuits of the slot you plugged it into or both because you DID NOT unplug the computer or otherwise switch off the AC power to the computer when you plugged in or unplugged the old card or the new card.

- you neglected to plug in some connection to the power supply that your system requires for the mboard or the video card in the slot. If the card in the slot has one or two power sockets on it, there must be a suitable wiring connector from the power supply plugged into it / them.
The mboard usually has TWO power sockets you must plug a connector from the power supply into.
.......

Your power supply must have at least the minimum capacity required to support a system with the graphics card you are using installed, or the max graphics card you might install in the future.
(Onboard video - video built into the mboard - IS NOT A CARD ! )
If that info is not in the ad for the video card, you can go to the video card maker's web site and look up the specs for the model - often under system requirements - the minimum PS wattage, and, more important, the minimum amperage the PS must supply at 12v is stated. If you don't find that, any card with the same video chipset including any letters after the model number has very similar minimum PS requirements. Some power supplies have two or more +12v ratings - in that case, add those ratings to determine the total +12v current capacity.

If you're a gamer...
In most if not all cases, the max capacity rating of the PS is an intermittent rating. It's recommended that you do not load your PS to any more that 80% of that rating if you are going to be using something that puts a constant load on it, such as playing a recent game for hours on end. In that case, you multiply the min capacity stated for the system with the particular video chipset on the card by 1.25 to find the min. capacity of the PS you should get.

If you need to get a PS with more capacity, you can usually replace it with any decent quality standard sized standard ATX PS.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

Don't buy an el-cheapo (in quality) PS.
See response 3 in this:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...

Note - I may have mentioned Coolermaster in that - I have recently found some models have only a 1 year warranty, some are known to have premature fan failures, some are known to develop failing electrolytic capacitors.



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#4
April 23, 2011 at 08:52:08

Thanks for this extensive reply.
The PC I have is this one: http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/service...

The new video card I have bought is this one (I was told that it was ok; since I have max 350W): ZOTAC GEFORCE GT 220 512MB PCI-E VGA/DVI/HDMI

Any idea what is wrong?

Niklas


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#5
April 23, 2011 at 09:38:35

The card should work immediately. No drivers are needed to display the splash screen / post screen. The GT 220 has low power requirements so I doubt the 375W PSU is the issue. Are you getting any beeps?

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#6
April 23, 2011 at 17:45:11

I think the old drivers are loading. Try starting in safe mode and then install the new drivers.

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#7
April 23, 2011 at 19:29:04

"I have max 350W"

Your specs say UP TO 350W.

If you haven't already done so, open up the case and find the ACTUAL (output) rating on the label on the power supply - brand name system builders tend to cheap out on the power supply capacity and yours may have a lot LESS than that

"GEFORCE GT 220"

Recommended Minimum Power Supply Capacity 300 watts.

The card should work fine, IF you have a power supply with at least 300 watts capacity - in that case, something else is wrong.
Your specs say discrete video,so you do NOT have a mboard that supports Hybrid video

"I think the old drivers are loading. "

The drivers loaded in Windows have nothing to do with whether the card has video while booting before Windows loads.


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#8
April 23, 2011 at 19:31:22

"I have max 350W"

Your specs say UP TO 350W.

If you haven't already done so, open up the case and find the ACTUAL rating on the label on the power supply - brand name system builders then to cheap out on the power supply capacity and yours may have less than that

"GEFORCE GT 220"

Recommended Minimum Power Supply Capacity 300 watts.

The card should work fine, IF you have a power supply with at least 300 watts capacity - in that case, if it DOES have at least that capacity,something else is wrong.
Your specs say discrete video, so you do NOT have a mboard that supports Hybrid video

"I think the old drivers are loading. "

The drivers loaded in Windows have nothing to do with whether the card has video while booting before Windows loads.


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#9
April 23, 2011 at 23:04:32

Hi,
A friend of mine, who knows a lot more about computers that I do came back.
He believes that there is something else wrong with the PC.
So he took it home to play with ... I hope that he finds, and can fix the issue, and if not it is probably cheaper to buy a working 2nd hand than work on this issue.

But thanks for the great help and tips; this forum is really great, bookmarked for life.

Niklas


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#10
April 24, 2011 at 07:11:11

Hopefully he'll figure out what is wrong.

However....
Whether or not the the hard drive or the data on it works properly has nothing to do with your problem.


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