installing internal hd

Wd Wd2500bb 250gb hard drive
October 3, 2009 at 08:55:54
Specs: Windows XP
computer recognizes extra drive as ram drive..pls help

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October 3, 2009 at 09:46:53
Do you mean RAW drive? Did you format the drive?

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October 3, 2009 at 10:46:42
"Do you mean RAW drive? Did you format the drive?"

If it's a new drive, or a used drive that has had it's partition(s) deleted from it, Windows will NOT show a drive letter for it in My Computer or Windows Explorer until the drive has been software partitioned and formatted using something the operating system recognizes.
In Windows, you do that in Disk Management.
(e.g. Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management - Disk Management)
The drive shows up there as RAW before it has been software partitioned and formatted.

For Windows operating systems 2000 and above, it recognzes only NTFS, FAT32, and FAT software partitioning. Windows Setup (for 2000 and up) only allows you to use NFTS for partitions larger than 32gb. If you want to use FAT32 for partitions larger than that, you can use third party programs to do that, such as hard drive manufacturer's free drive preparation programs, and Windows (95 OSR2 and up) will recognize the FAT32 partitions fine.

If you're installing Windows on the new or otherwise blank drive by booting from a Windows CD, Setup will software partition and format one partition for you, if you so choose - you DO NOT have to make only one partition that fills the entire hard drive, which is the default - in fact it's a very good idea to make at least two - when it shows the default size it wants to make the partition, change it to a smaller size - keeping in mind there are 1, 024 mb per gb in the binary way of expressing the size Windows and the mboard bios uses. You can software partition and format one or more partitions in the remaining free space on the harddrive after Setup is finished in Disk Management.

NOTE that if there is/are other drives present on the system when you run Setup that have data on them, for 2000 or XP, if you want Windows to see itself (the partition Windows is installed on) as being on C, you must either
- disconnect the data cable connector to all other hard drives,
- or set the connection the other drives are connected to to NONE in the mboard's bios Setup,
- or HIDE the other hard drive partitions with a program such as Partition Magic (you must do that if there is already (a) partition(s) on the drive that already has/have data on it/them and you are installing Windows onto one of the partitions.)
(you may also need to change jumper settings on IDE drives if more than one hard or optical drive is connected to the same data cable)
BEFORE you run Setup.

If you want to have a dual or multi-boot situation, it's easy to make that possible later after Setup has finished and you have reconnected all your hard drives.


Wd2500bb is an IDE (a.k.a. EIDE; PATA) drive.

The IDE data cable you connect it to must have 80 wires in order for the mboard to support the max burst data transfer speed the drive can achieve.
80 wire data cables usually have two or three different colors of connectors.
The proper connector on one end of the 80 wire data cable must be connected to the mboard - usually it's blue, but in any case, it's the one farther from the middle connector on a 3 connector data cable.

You may need to change the jumper setting on the back of the drive if it is on an IDE data cable with another drive.

Either both drives on the same data cable must be set to cable select, or one must be set to master, the other to slave.

The jumper settings are shown on the label on the drive, or, see this:
Jumper settings:

This drive must be set to Dual Master or Dual Slave if there is another drive on the same data cable, if you use master/slave settings - it is likely it will not be recognized properly if jumpered or set otherwise.

It is common to un-intentionally damage IDE data cables, especially while removing them - the 80 wire ones are more likely to be damaged. What usually happens is the cable is ripped at either edge and the wires there are either damaged or severed, often right at a connector or under it's cable clamp there, where it's hard to see - if a wire is severed but it's ends are touching, the connection is intermittant, rather than being reliable.
Another common thing is for the data cable to be separated from the connector contacts a bit after you have removed a cable - there should be no gap between the data cable and the connector - if there is press the cable against the connector to eliminate the gap.
80 wire data cables are also easily damaged at either edge if the cable is sharply creased at a fold in the cable.

Try another data cable if in doubt.

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October 3, 2009 at 10:49:35
i took the drive from an old computer,hooked it up but the computer will only rec it as another ram disc drive (drive d)..ric

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October 3, 2009 at 11:50:17
If the drive is using FAT32 or NTFS software partitioning, see the info about the jumper settings in response 2 - you've probably go that wrong.

If the drive is NOT using FAT32 or NTFS software partitioning, XP cannot recognize the data on the drive properly.

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October 3, 2009 at 18:05:17
However it's being seen, can you access it? A ram disk/drive is a drive carved out of your system ram although a more generic definition may now include flash drives. Is that what you mean?

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October 10, 2009 at 08:07:41
after install,including format ,the computer only rec 9.7mb out of 250mb..pls help

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October 10, 2009 at 11:37:54
"after install,including format ,the computer only rec 9.7mb out of 250mb"

You don't have a 250mb drive - it's a 250gb drive.
Did you mean 9.7gb out of 250gb?

9.7 of data on a 250 partition, or the partition is only 9.7 total?

See the jumper setting and ide data cable info in response 2.

If you're certain the jumper setting is correct and there's nothing wrong with the data cable,

Tell us the make and model of your brand name system, or if you have a generic desktop system, the make and model of the mboard.
The specific model of a brand name system is shown on a label on the outside of the case somewhere, or it can often be determined by going to the brand name's web site.
The model, sometimes the make, of a mboard in a generic desktop system is usually printed on the mboard's surface in obvious larger characters, often between the slots.

Your Windows XP CD must have at least SP1 updates included on it in order for Setup to be able to recognize the full size of hard drives, or partitions on hard drives, that are larger than 128gb in Windows and the mboard's bios = 137gb manufacturer's size.
XP CDs with SP2 or SP3 updates included have SP2 or SP3 printed on the original CD.
The original XP CDs and all the OEM original XP CDs that have SP1 updates I've seen have nothing about SPx printed on the original CD. The volume labels - the name you see in My Computer for the CD - for CDs with SP1 updates included are different from thos that have no SP updates at all, so you can search with that on the web to find out if the CD has SP1 updates included or not.

If you DID use an XP CD with SP1 or later updates included...

- your mboard's bios version must be able to recognize drives larger than 128gb in the mboard's bios = 137gb manufacturer's size.

- the connection the drive is connected to should be set to Auto detection by the method Auto or LBA in the mboard's bios Setup.

Check your hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostics.
See the latter part of response 1 in this:

(thanks to Dan Penny for this link:)
Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities

If you don't have a floppy drive, you can get a CD image diagnostic utility from most hard drive manufacturer's web sites, but obviously you would need to make a burned CD, preferably a CD-R for best compatibilty, on another computer if you need to.

If the hard drive itself tests okay, any data problems found can be fixed, one way or another.

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