Input Signal Out of Range

Ati Radeon x1300 video card
April 10, 2010 at 18:43:30
Specs: Windows XP, Windows 7
I need help with this. I've been having this issue with this video card. I just got it today and when i put it in, i used a dvi cable and anytime on the monitor it just randomly says "Input Signal Out of Range". even when I'm in the BIOS. If you need info,

Monitor: HP 2009m WIde LCD Monitor
Nforce 430 motherboard
nvidia geforce 6150 le
I've tried to enable vga mode but it stops loading when the windows xp words come up
I've read a lot of different things and tried them all and none of them work. I've have booted up into xp and it works for a minute or so then says again, input signal out of range.
I have a dual boot with wondows 7 ultimate. same happens with 7. it seems wierd that it does it in the BIOS. If anyone can help me then I'd appreciate it.

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April 10, 2010 at 18:55:32
What video card? The geforce 6150 le is onboard video, not a card. If you're installing an actual card, did you change the BIOS settings to disable the onboard?

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April 10, 2010 at 19:03:40
Its a Visiontek Radeon x1300. 256mb pci-e. yeah. in the BIOS there isnt an option to disable it. there is just auto or onboard/card. either one i choose, it still does it.

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April 10, 2010 at 20:36:19
What's the make/model of your motherboard? I'd like to get a look at the manual.

The x1300 is definitely better than the 6150 but it isn't a huge step up. Hopefully you didn't pay more than $25-30 for it?

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April 10, 2010 at 21:04:42
No. Only $22.50 on ebay. Ill look in a few. I know its an nforce 430 mobo. My comp is a dell dimension c521 if that helps or ill post a cpuz pic of it

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April 10, 2010 at 21:09:18

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April 10, 2010 at 21:37:49
yeah its a slim tower, but the card came with a low profile bracket. and ive heard that the x1300 only needed a 250w power supply. ive got a 280w so it should work just fine. like ive said, i have booted it up and works for a little while then says it. i just upgraded with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+. so heres a pic of what cpuz says.

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April 10, 2010 at 22:06:54
"ive heard that the x1300 only needed a 250w power supply. ive got a 280w so it should work just fine."

Radeon X1300

"System Requirements

* PCI Express® based PC is required with one x16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
* 350-Watt power supply or greater recommended "

Your power supply does not have enough capacity by a long shot.
You are probably getting the message because your power supply is overloaded.
You could try your monitor with another computer, but you probably won't get the message on another computer, and there's probably nothing wrong with the monitor.

Your present power supply will probably fail eventually if you continue to use the Radeon X1300.

Good luck finding a replacement power supply that has more capacity.
The C521 uses a smaller than standard oddball shaped power supply - it's proprietary for that reason, otherwise the wiring of it is standard ATX.
I looked on the web for :
Dimension C521 replacement power supply
and all I found were ones with the same capacity, so far.

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April 10, 2010 at 22:22:27
ok. so what would the best video card i could put in it be? ive read people using the 9600gt. but im not too sure.

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April 10, 2010 at 22:49:55
this is one that i think is the best for my c521.

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April 10, 2010 at 23:09:21

GeForce 7600GS

A minimum 300W system power supply

Some "hits" say 350 watts.

You power supply might just barely run it, but a computer power supply's capacity rating is almost always an intermittent rating - you'll probably burn it out eventually if it's running at 100% of it's capacity all the time.

Search for something such as:

GeForce minimum 250watt (e.g. Geforce 6200)
Radeon minimum 250watt (e.g. Radeon 2600xx)
Geforce minimum 250 watt
Radeon minimum 250 watt

and find ones that are pci-e X16, and low profile, or that have both the regular and the shorter low profile bracket included

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April 11, 2010 at 10:19:49
You're not gonna find a really decent low profile gaming card, especially one that will work with a 250W PSU. Slim style systems have limited upgradeability & many parts are proprietary...power supply is a good example. And by upgrading the CPU, it's possible that the power requirements have increased. Adding the card increased the power requirements even more.

If power supply overloading isn't the problem, all I can think is that the card is defective.

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April 11, 2010 at 11:53:54
Remove the X1300 and try the onboard video for awhile. If you have no problems with that, the X1300 is probably overloading the power supply.

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April 11, 2010 at 13:26:54
This just seems really wierd that i cant use this card, when ive heard people running in their c521 with the stock 280w pSU, 4gb RAM, AMD Athlon X2 6000+ and and ATI Radeon HD4650. and they've been running that for a while.

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April 11, 2010 at 15:54:26
I guess you already tried this:

PLEASE do not think I'm trying to insult you, but I have run into folk who have forgotten plug the monitor into the new add-on card ;)

What's the time?

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April 11, 2010 at 20:17:18
yep. already tried it. it happens when im at the BIOS screen too. So it should be any issue with resolution. I just think my power supply doesn't like the card.

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April 11, 2010 at 22:13:53
You need a video card that draws less power !
If you keep on using it your power supply will probably fail !
If it fails it may fry your mboard while failing !

Did you try removing the X1300 and using the onboard video?

Radeon HD4650

Power Supply Requirements 450 Watts (75 Watts 6-pin)

HD4650 "Power Saver" series - Minimum Power Required 400 watts.

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April 12, 2010 at 00:23:16
im not using the card anymore. sending it back. idk how people can use those video cards on this stock PSU. a 450w video card on a 280w PSU? IDK how their PSU hasn't fried yet. Onboard video works just fine. It always has just been wanting to upgrade video since ive upgraded to a dual core. Anyone know what the best video card i can upgrade to is? ive heard people using the 7600gs since it has low power consumption, also my friend is using an 8400gs silent, which works great but idk if itll work in mine. i've also head people say that the best one is the 9600gt. but all of them are over 280w recommended PSU.

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April 12, 2010 at 12:05:59
I took another look.

Apparently the C521 optionally came with a X1300 or X1300Pro

Dell Tech Specs

On that page it lists only one power supply capacity - 280 watt. I searched on the web again and found no power supply for C521 with more capacity, so there seems to be no undocumented power supply for the C521, which sometimes iis the situation, that has more capacity.

I looked again on the web using: X1300 minimum watt
and I found many for X1300Pro that say it requires 350 watts, but for X1300 or X1300XT they quote either 250 or 300 watts.

So - if your new cpu has very similar current requirements to the one it originally had, the power supply should have worked with your X1300, assuming it wasn't a Pro, but the power supply would have been running at 100% of it's capacity, or nearly so, or 89% or it's capacity, or nearly so, all the time.

Since the max capacity rating is almost always an intermittent rating, and it's recommended you do NOT load your power supply to more than 80% of it's capacity continuously, it's just plain unethical for Dell to use a 280 watt power supply when the C521 has a X1300 or X1300 Pro installed.

I think what's really doing on here is the power supply is no longer capable of putting out 280 watts, for whatever reason - I would think it's because it was being loaded to more than 80% of it's capacity continuously .

I suspect that if you got another video card that requires a minimum 250 watt PS capacity, you're going to have the same problem you had before.

What was your original CPU ?

"i just upgraded with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ "

According to this it draws 65 watts:

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April 12, 2010 at 12:44:08
the original was a AMD sempron 1.8ghz. idk exactly. thats what i know. i just know the 5600+ was the best i could get in it. and its possible whoever had this computer before me might have messed it up.

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April 12, 2010 at 14:31:35
i want to upgrade to the asus 8400gs.

I think it only needs a 300w supply. my friend got one and its runs the games i want to run great. he only has a pentium d 2.8ghz so my athlon x2 2.8ghz will run them better. ive heard people saying that a 400w video card would work too. i've read all over the internet. people saying that they run the 9600gt fine with no problems. so the only games that im trying to run at higher settings than they are now are:
2moons (Online Game)
Battle for Middle Earth 2/Rise of the Witch King
Thats about it. they run fine, except oblivion for obvious reasons. I'm not a mass computer gamer, only consoles for those games. But still would like to play some good games. Up to about oblivion. I know that my future specs will run oblivion.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ 2.8ghz Dual Core Processor
2GB Ram
160gb HDD
512mb ASUS 8400GS

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April 12, 2010 at 14:37:20
Apparently a 1.8ghz Sempron can be several cpu models, and at least two different wattages.
If you still have the Sempron, provide the SDA number that's printed on the top of it.
If you don't, provide the Service tag number that's on the white label on the back of the case. E.g. I worked on a guy's C521 recently and his Service tag was 17NFCC1 .

(He got it free when he signed up as a new user for a 2 or 3 year contract with his ADSL ISP, Telus.)

" and its possible whoever had this computer before me might have messed it up."

Certainly, if that person tried to use a video card that requires a minimum a lot more than a 280 watt capacity PS.

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April 12, 2010 at 14:42:58
this is the exact video card i got. the x1300.

it says that it needs a 250 watt or greater power supply. which i have. thats why i got this one. because i knew i met the requirements. so i think it may be my PSU.
I've got the sempron still so ill post the number on it when i get home.

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April 13, 2010 at 17:18:13
heres both:

Service Tag: 2XTR8C1

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April 13, 2010 at 19:36:48

Sempron 3400+ - 940 pin (AM2) - uses 59 watts vs the 65 your present cpu is using - not a significant difference.

FYI the model numbers - 3400+ and 5600+ - are AMD's approximation of how the cpu compares in performance to the original Intel P4 cpus. E.g. 5600+ is comparable in AMD's opinion to an original P4 running at 5.6ghz ! Different series of Athlon cpus have different efficiencies internally in the cpu, so you can't compare the ghz they run at directly.
There is another similar AMD cpu that runs at 1.8ghz that has the 3000+ model number. The 5600+ runs at 2.9ghz. The 6400+, the top cpu in the original 64 X2 940 pin (AM2) series, runs at 3.2ghz, but it uses 120 watts ! There is a 6000+ model in the same series that uses 120 watts, and newer 6000+ model that uses 65? watts, both run at 3.0ghz. Some AM2 and AM2+ mboard models cannot use cpus that draw more than 85 watts or so.

"Service Tag: 2XTR8C1"

The original specs of your specific system configuration:

The software downloads for your original specific system configuration:

The one I worked on had no dial-up modem, no PCI-E video card, and a different optical drive. I didn't make note of which cpu it was using.

Home User support:

You may find other info there specific to your system configuration by using the service tag number

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April 13, 2010 at 22:08:03
i also did the power supply calculator online.
i put in everything i have, including if i got an 8400gs and it said 206 watts.
with an x1300 pro, 199 watts. so i dont get the problem.

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April 14, 2010 at 07:08:15
So - if you replace the power supply with a new one, and use a video card that no more than a minimum 250 watt PS is specified for, you should be fine.

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April 14, 2010 at 13:22:13
ok. i just dont want to go out and buy a new power supply and th same video card do the same thing. I dont have the money to go out and test things. I think the visiontek x1300 is probably the best card i can get for my computer and power supply, A new power supply runs me $30. is it really worth all this work just for a 256mb video card? my games run ok, yes i would like to play more, but i can live with this.

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