IED hard drive cant be readed

Western digital Wd600jb-00cra1
August 23, 2009 at 11:04:55
Specs: Windows XP
Hello guys i have just installed an new motherboard and cpu because the other one was fried :P everything was ok till i switched on my pc . In the BIOS it could recognize my HD it showed its name BUT it couldnt boot and start up windows , i got a message saying that : if you pressed the reset button click safe mode , if you haven't seen this message again press start windows normally , i selected it and everytime it was rebooting and again the same message . as i understand my hard disk couldn't be readed and i am so afraid because i don't want to lose anything form inside , is there anything i can do to backup everything from inside or fix it ? i tried puting my hard disk to many pcs and again was the same message i tried puting it also as a slave one but i dont know how to backup my files i need so much your help

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#1
August 23, 2009 at 15:08:30
You can't swap HDD's with XP on it from one system to another...the installation is configured to your old hardware. You have to reinstall Windows because of the motherboard swap. Try the "repair installation" method:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...

BTW, what makes you so sure your old board & CPU both fried?


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#2
August 23, 2009 at 16:12:47
"IED hard drive cant be readed"
"..BUT it couldnt boot.."

Your hard drive booted fine, and your hard drive was "readed" - your problem is it isn't loading Windows properly. That message is generated by Windows so it must have attempted to load - the hard drive already has Windows on it.
You often get that message if Windows was shut down improperly the last time the drive was used - if you turned the power off or pressed the Reset button while Windows was running rather than Shutting Down Windows normally. In that case, you try choosing Startup Windows normally or similar. If that doesn't work, you try Safe mode, or Enable VGA mode.

What jam said applies, but the message you're getting is NOT the usual thing that happens when the existing Windows installation on the drive was installed on a mboard that has hardware that is too much different from the one you moved it to.
What usually happens is you see the first bit of Windows graphics, then a black screen with a blinking cursor top left, and nothing further happens.

NOTE that when you run that procedure jam pointed you to, you MUST supply the Product Key - if you don't, and you quit Setup at that point, you WILL NOT be able to do the procedure the second time you try and therafter, you will have to install Windows from scratch, and you will lose all your personal programs, settings, and other data you have added to the Windows installation unless you copy the data you do not want to lose elsewhere before you run the procdeure.
E.g.
If you originally installed Windows on the drive by using an OEM XP CD, the Product Key is on the official Microsoft sticker that came with the CD, which may be on the computer case the drive was in as Microsoft wants you to do.
If you don't know where that is, if you can install the drive back on the computer it was on before, you can use a program such as Keyfinder to find the Product Key of the XP installation you booted.
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"readed"

No such word.
Read, as in I want to read the paper, and Read, as in I have read the paper, are spelt the same way, they're just pronounced (spoken) differently.

Read, as in I want to read the paper, is pronounced the same as reed.
Read, as in I have read the paper, is pronounced the same as red.


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#3
August 24, 2009 at 01:03:43
ok my hard drive was read but it couldnt open windows , i tried safe mode and all the other options but it was rebooting everytime . i booted from my windows xp cd and there was no option of repair and how i will find my product key if my hard drive cant open windows ? why do i need to find my product key ?

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#4
August 24, 2009 at 10:22:49
If you don't understand what we're trying to tell you, PLEASE, if you know someone who has some computer troubleshooting knowledge, ask them if they can help you.
.....

If you have looked at the information at the link jam provided in response 1 (it is a very good idea to PRINT that information), you will have seen how to get to the page with the second Repair choice - Repair your existing Windows installation, or similar.
If you have not looked at that information, go there and LOOK AT IT!!


If you don't see that second Repair choice , either.....

1. - you have a SATA hard drive, and the computer's bios Setup has the SATA controllers in SATA or AHCI mode. XP can't recognize most if not all SATA drive conrollers so it can't recognize SATA drives, unless you ......
- set the SATA controllers in the computer's bios Setup to IDE compatible mode or similar - then the XP CD will find SATA drives, no problem.
- OR - you Press F6 when you see a line for that at the bottom of the screen at the beginning of loading files from the XP CD, and provide a floppy disk in afloppy drive that has the drivers for the SATA controllers on it.
If you don't have a floppy drive, you must make a "slipstreamed" CD-R that has the contents of your CD that has had the SATA controller drivers integrated into it - if you go to that trouble, you might as well make it with SP3 updates integrated into it as well.

Obviously, for most people, the first option is far easier to do, and the easiest way if you have no regular floppy drive.

XP's Setup cannot find the SATA controller drivers if they're on CDs, DVDs, other hard drive partitions, flash drives, and it only recognizes a few USB floppy drive models, most of which have not been made for many years.

I can probably find info about how to set the SATA controllers in the bios Setup to IDE compatibilty mode or simlar if you have a generic system and if you tell me what make and model your mboard is, but if you have a brand name system, if you tell me what make and model your system is, I may or may not be able to find that information, and you will probably need to find that information youself.


2. - some data essential to allowing the second Repair choice to appear is damaged or missing - I've seen that in my own experience only once, for a system where somone had installed XP Pro on the second partition of a brand name system hard drive without deleting anything on the first partition, which had XP Home on it - in that case the second Repair choice not appearing cannot be fixed.( I had to use the models Recovery disk set to re-install the original software the computer came with.),

3. - you are using an old XP CD that has no SP updates included on it at all - the original version of XP. In that case, if you can borrow someone else's OEM XP CD that has at least SP1 updates included on it, and boot with it, you will see the second Repair choice, if data essential to allowing the second Repair choice to appear is NOT damaged or missing, which is usually the case.

Regular XP CDs that have SP2 or SP3 updates included have SP2 or SP3 printed on the CD.
Regular original version XP CDs and XP CDs that have SP1 updates included have nothing about SP printed on the CD, but the volume labels (the label you see for the CD on My Computer or Windows Explorer) for the two are different - if you search the web using the volume label, you can determine whether it has SP1updates included or not. There may also be one identification file that is different or not there on the CD on the original version CDs that is there on the ones that have SP! updates, but I have no CD with only SP1 updates so I can't confirm that.

If you do have an XP CD with no SP updates at all, if you can't borrow one that does have SP updates, you can make a "slipstreamed" CD-R CD that has the files on your CD that have had the SP3 updates integrated into it, and if you have a SATA drive, you can also integrate the drivers for the SATA controllers a particular mboard has onto that, but of course you would need to be able to make the "slipstreamed" CD on another computer.
.........

If the hard drive that has Windows on it is IDE, or if it's SATA and the mboard's bios Setup settings have the SATA controler set to IDE cpmpatible mode or similar, OR if you have loaded SATA controller drivers, then Windows Setup recognizes your hard drive, and....

You always have a least one Repair choice when you boot from the XP CD - after the initial files have been loaded from the CD, the first screen that appears asks you if you want to Repair Windows - if you press R, that takes you to the black screen interface called the Recovery Console - but that's not the better choice when you are having a problem like you're having, using it requires some explaining if you haven't used that choice before, and you must type one or more commands.
If you truly do not have the second Repair, the first one is a poor substitute in many cases and often will NOT cure the problem you are having.
........

"why do i need to find my product key "

You MUST have a Product Key to run the Repair installation procedure, which will not detete the existing personal data you have added to Windows, and even if you give up and install Windows from scratch, which WILL delete the existing personal data you have added to Windows, you STILL must have a Product Key.

See Response 2 starting at:

"NOTE that when you run that procedure jam pointed you to, you MUST supply the Product Key "
......

Oops - I missed noticing this in your first post:

"i tried puting my hard disk to many pcs and again was the same message ..."
...

"how i will find my product key if my hard drive cant open windows"

Assuming one of them was the computer you had it on originally when you installed Windows on that hard drive (if Windows is not damaged it should boot fine on that computer), that presents a problem. You can't get the Product Key from Windows itself any way I know of if you can't get Windows to work on any computer, because the program that finds the key requires that you must be able to boot the Windows installation you want to find the key for, and Windows must be working at least well enough for the program to work.

In that case you must use a Product Key found on the official Microsoft label.

- if your computer is a brand name system.....

- the official Microsoft sticker was installed on the outside of the computer case somewhere, for the version - Home or Pro, the computer orginally came with, if it came with XP.
You can use that Prouct Key with any OEM Windows XP CD that is the same version - Home or Pro. I don't think it matters which SP updates it has on the OEM XP CD you use.
But in MUST be an OEM CD - a Retail full version or retail Upgrade version will NOT work with the Product Key on the brand name case.

Regular OEM XP CD =
- usually a gold color, holograms on it, it has "For distribution with a new PC only. " printed on it

- if you bought the regular OEM XP CD yourself, or if you have borrowed one someone else bought themself, the official Mircosoft label comes with the CD. Microsoft requires you to install the sticker on the computer case, but sometimes people don't bother (including myself) and have it loosesomewhere.

If someone installed Windows from a regular OEM XP CD on your system for you, they were supposed to install the Microsoft sticker on the case.

If you or someone installed Windows with a retail full version XP CD on a drive, the Product Key that came with the CD will work with any Windows installtion that was installed from a
retail full version XP CD that is the same version - Home or Pro.
.......

If a brand name computer, or a computer custom built for you by a system builder, has any version of XP MCE, that's a different matter. All versions of OEM XP MCE (there is no retail version) come on two CDs. In almost all cases those regular CDs are not provided - you must buy the OEM MCE 2 CD set - unless, for a brand name system, the Recovery CD set or DVD has that on it.
........

"i don't want to lose anything form inside , is there anything i can do to backup everything from inside.."

If you can't get the second Repair choice to appear after trying all of the above, if the drive works fine physically otherwise, if you install this drive on a computer that has a working Windows installtion on another drive, as slave drive, or so you're not booting your drive on that computer in the boot order settings in the bios, then you can copy anything to like to elsewhere - CDs or DVDs or another hard drive partition.

You do NOT need to copy....
- everything on the first partition on your drive
- if you have an XP CD you can install Windows with, you don't need to copy anything that's on the Windows CD or that is installed when you run Setup from the CD
- anything that you have the installation CDs for
- anything you can easily download again from the web, or download and install

You should copy.....

Much of your personal stuff is in \Documents and Settings\(your user name)\(your sub folders)
That includes your Outlook Express or Outlook personal email and related if you use that, your My Documents, My Pictures, your Desktop icons, your Internet Explorer Favorites, etc. etc.
You should copy folders in that.

If you were using a password for your user name, when you try to access anything in \Documents and Settings\(your user name)\(your sub folders) on another computer, you will get an "Access Denied" or similar message. The same applies if you need to copy stuff for other users that were using passwords that were using that hard drive.

In that case, see this:

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...

NOTE: you probably have to reboot the computer before the settings you change actually take effect!
....

You may have other folders elsewhere that have documents, music,. movies, etc. you should copy.



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#5
August 24, 2009 at 13:42:04
ok thanks for your time . i booted with an original windows xp cd and it found ONLY the repair console i pressed enter to continue setup then F8 for the agreement and when saw the hard disk there wasn't an option R for repair . why is that ?

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#6
August 24, 2009 at 13:47:36
thanks for your time i booted with an original cd and i could ONLY see the FIRST option of repair install i selected enter then F8 for the license agreement and then i saw my 2 partitions but the was no option of repair :( what shall i do ?

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#7
August 24, 2009 at 14:27:12
See Response 4 starting at:
"If you don't see that second Repair choice , either....."

1. only applies if Setup can't "see" a SATA hard drive you have Windows installed on.
In that case, when you choose the first Repair option, the Recovery Console doesn't find any Windows installation that's on the SATA drive (if you have only a Windows installation on one or more SATA drive it won't find any Windows installations), and the second Repair Option isn't there, if your Windows installation(s) is(are) only on (a) SATA drive(s), because Setup is not aware that you have a Windows installation on a SATA drive because it can't "see" a SATA drive.

If you go into the Recovery Console, you can type: exit (press Enter) to get out of it and the computer will reboot.

2. is rather rare

"then i saw my 2 partitions"
If you have only one hard drive connected, then

3. is the most likely reason you don't see the second Repair choice.


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#8
August 24, 2009 at 22:38:13
yes i have one IED hard drive connected . If i connect and my other SATA hard drive willl it give the 2nd option repair ?

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#9
August 24, 2009 at 23:58:57
i insert my other SATA hard disk and it could boot form the cd . i don't know why . and when i boot the IED hard disk is making a loud continuous noise but it can read it as a master in the

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#10
August 24, 2009 at 23:59:49
it can read it as a master in the BIOS . I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO :(

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#11
August 25, 2009 at 00:23:41
when it tries to boot now the hard disk is making an continuous noise and it lags . i tried the repair with my 2 hard drives but it was SO lagy that i closed it the setup wouldn't open

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#12
August 25, 2009 at 16:52:51
"yes i have one IED hard drive connected . If i connect and my other SATA hard drive willl it give the 2nd option repair ?"

IDE, not IED, unless that's different in your language.
NO, it can't, if the SATA drive is not the drive that has Windows on it.
When you connect the SATA drive, the XP CD may not "see" the SATA drive - see 1. in Response 4.

Which hard drive has Windows installed on it? We didn't know you had two hard drives until now - we were assuming it was on the IDE drive.

If only one drive has Windows installed on it, that's the only one that needs to be connected when you attempt to repair Windows with the XP CD.

Whatever hard drive you had connected up till now, the IDE one it sounds like, showed 2 partitions according to you in Setup when you booted with the XP CD - that doesn't necessrily indicate that drive has Windows on it - it only indicates it has 2 partitions, unless Setup says Windows XP is installed on one of them.
When you use the first Repair option, the Recovery Console should find at least one Windows installation.
(Type: exit, press Enter, to get out of the Recovery Console - the computer reboots automatically)

If the hard drive DOES have Windows on it, if the second Repair choice doesn't show up (are you SURE you're looking in the right place for the second one, according to jam's link info in response 1?
- same subject here, it shows you the screens you see:
http://www.windowsreinstall.com/win... )
then in that case, you probably have the situation in Response 4, # 3,
UNLESS the CD you are using is a CD that came with a brand name system, in which case you MAY need to use a regular OEM XP CD in order to see the second Repair choice.

"when i boot the IED hard disk is making a loud continuous noise but it can read it as a master in the" " ,,,, BIOS "

IDE, not IED unless that's different in your language.

Describe the noise.

e.g. possible hard drive noise - commonly, a low pitched thrashing noise, or, rarely, a very high pitched noise like a buzzer (I've heard that from a dying Maxtor hard drive). The led for the hard drives drive may stay on a long time.

If it's anything else, it's more likely you have loose wires that are rubbing on a fan blade somewhere, such as on the cpu fan, or on a case fan, or it's a noise coming from a cpu fan, case fan, or power supply fan (screeching, rattling), or, rarely, coming from the power supply from something else being defective .

- a beep of about a half second, silence for a half second, a beep of about a half second, silence for a half second, continuously.

All of your ram is not all the way down in it's slot(s)


An improper data cable connection can cause a drive to behave weirdly.

Check the data cables

It is common to un-intentionally damage IDE data cables, especially while removing them - the 80 wire ones are more likely to be damaged. What usually happens is the cable is ripped at either edge and the wires there are either damaged or severed, often right at a connector or under it's cable clamp there, where it's hard to see - if a wire is severed but it's ends are touching, the connection is intermittant, rather than being reliable.
Another common thing is for the data cable to be separated from the connector contacts a bit after you have removed a cable - there should be no gap between the data cable and the connector - if there is press the cable against the connector to eliminate the gap.
80 wire data cables are also easily damaged at either edge if the cable is sharply creased at a fold in the cable.

Try another data cable if in doubt.


Check your SATA data cables. The connector on each end should "latch" into the socket on the drive and on the mboard, or on the drive controller card - it should not move when you merely brush your hand against it near the socket - if it does, mere vibration can cause a poor connection of it - use another SATA data cable that does "latch", or tape the connector in place.
(There is a slight projection or bump on one side of the outside of the connector that "latches" it into the socket - it's easily broken off or damaged)

The same thing applies for the SATA power connection.

If the data cable connection is okay....

"when it tries to boot now the hard disk is making an continuous noise and it lags . i tried the repair with my 2 hard drives but it was SO lagy that i closed it the setup wouldn't open "

It sounds like one of your hard drives is dying. When a hard drive or CD drive is malfunctioning that often causes weird behavior.

Unplug the power connector or the data cable from one of the hard drives, then see if you still get the noise.

A defective CD or DVD drive can cause weird symptoms, but it can't make any noise unless it has a disk in it.


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#13
August 25, 2009 at 23:46:55
i dont get the noise with my SATA hard disk and it starts windows perfectly , i am sure its the IDE hard disk problem and all my cables are in its place the rams and everything , when you say its dying cant do anything to take back my data ?

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#14
August 26, 2009 at 07:11:30
Check the IDE cable to the IDE drive. Try a different one if in doubt - if you don't have a spare one if your CD or DVD drive IDE and on a different data cable, try the IDE hard drive with that temporaily.

You have not described the noise. People often think the noise is coming from the hard drive when it is not.
If you touch nothing else and disconnect only the IDE drive and the noise is still there, it can't be coming from the hard drive.

If you confirm the noise is coming from the hard drive, you must be able to access it in order to be able to copy data from it to some other place. You don't necessarily need to boot fWindows from it. Since it appears, according to your information in your last post, that both the SATA drive and the IDE drive have Windows installed on them, you could boot Windows from the SATA drive when both drives are connected - you may need to change the boot order settings in the bios to do that - and then try accessing the IDE drive to see if you can see it's files okay.

Check your hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostics.
See the latter part of response 1 in this:
http://www.computing.net/windows95/...

(thanks to Dan Penny for this link:)
Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm...

If you don't have a floppy drive, you can get a CD image diagnostic utility from most hard drive manufacturer's web sites, but obviously you would need to make a burned CD, preferably a CD-R for best compatibilty, on another computer if you need to.

If the hard drive itself tests okay, any data problems found can be fixed, one way or another.

If the hard drive diagnostics can't access the drive, nothing else can either. In that case the only way you can get any data off of it is by paying an amount of money you probably don't want to pay to an expert to try to do that for you (e.g. most hard drive manufacturers can do that), or you could try to do what the expert would do yourself - replace the board on the drive with another one that works with your drive model, and if that doesn't help, transfer the disks (platters) from inside your drive to a working drive they are compatible with. You may need to get oddball tools to do either or both of those things to remove the fasteners. Since most of us have no idea which board will work on which model, and which disks (platters) are compatible with which drive models, or how to find out about that, your best bet is to buy a working used drive off the web that is exactly the same model.


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