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Name: Judago
Date: May 8, 2009 at 05:38:49 Pacific
OS: Windows 2003 32bit
CPU/Ram: Athlon xp x2 64 5600 / 2gb
Subcategory: General
Comment:

Does anyone know how to make Ie7 default to a certain paper type?

Here is the issue, at work I have moved a networked printer from a secondary pc, to the main server that is also used as a work station, it is used primarily for printing A4 documents both locally and over the network but also is used for printing electronic con notes, therein lies the problem, the con notes are only slightly larger than A4(about 5mm longer) but print just outside the allowable print margins of A4 (quite unnecessarily I might add, just to have a the date printed right at the bottom, but I will spare the rant...). So I must specify legal paper.

I have set this up but only one issue remains, IE takes the default paper from the printer settings, as do other programs. Selecting legal from page setup works but doesn't stick. I could change the default paper to legal system wide, but then I'm left with the same problem in reverse.

I have already tried a registry edit for "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings" using a dword "PaperSize" with a value of 5, but it didn't work.

I have also though of adding the same printer twice and trying to get IE to default to the second instance, but this is more difficult because the printer it local, and windows doesn't seem to like having the same local printer setup twice.

The printer is a HP 2420n laser printer.

Any suggestions?



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Response Number 1
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 8, 2009 at 05:45:39 Pacific
Reply:

I am not sure about this but I think if you print from the File> print option instead of the keyboard shortcut it will stick on what you set.

Another option may be to set the scaling at something less than 100% so you CAN print to letter size.

So you are saying that even if you go to File> print, and set to use legal size paper the setting is not saved?


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Response Number 2
Name: Judago
Date: May 8, 2009 at 05:54:07 Pacific
Reply:

Unfortunately scaling won't do the trick nor will file>print as the website used for the consignment notes is scripted with a "print" button.

I have to go to file>page setup and select legal paper for every session. What I mean by "doesn't stick" is that I must do this every time I close and reopen IE, which is a real pain. After I have selected legal it will print fine until IE is closed.


edit:
What I mean about the print button is that the web page itself isn't printed, but a document contained within the website(I think it is a webpage contained within a webpage).


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Response Number 3
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 8, 2009 at 05:59:35 Pacific
Reply:

Possibly a dumb question but are you clicking OK and then Apply on the next box after setting to legal size portrait?


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Response Number 4
Name: Judago
Date: May 8, 2009 at 06:03:05 Pacific
Reply:

There is no apply button, only ok or cancel.


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Response Number 5
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 8, 2009 at 06:09:44 Pacific
Reply:

There IS an apply button.

Go file> print> preferences. Make your changes then click OK.

At that time you should see a box with all available printers on it. The printer in question should be highlighted. There is an Apply button on that box.

Possible that the box is minimized in the tray. I just tested on this system and that is what I see.


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Response Number 6
Name: Judago
Date: May 8, 2009 at 06:21:13 Pacific
Reply:

I am well aware I can set legal as the default paper system wide, using the printing preferences does just that, which screws with all of the other documents that need to be printed A4. Which leaves me in the same position but with different programs and paper size.


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Response Number 7
Name: Judago
Date: May 8, 2009 at 06:53:34 Pacific
Reply:

You know what I am going to make a complete fool of myself(nothing new there) and say OtheHill I think your exactly right.

I was assuming that it was system wide because it looks exactly the same, I'm sure that I tried it, but I was frantically trying to fix my mistake under the pressure of my co-workers glances (whilst being on-the-clock) and just to add to it this thing hardly gets five minutes to itself.

Anyway I'll give it another shot, it doesn't work with my home printer(it's a cheap cannon), but I'll give it another go.

If anyone has any "Plan bs" I'd like to hear them.

Sorry for coming off snappy, kind not used to asking for help(google is my friend...).


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Response Number 8
Name: XpUser
Date: May 8, 2009 at 07:00:33 Pacific
Reply:

Resist the pressure it can snap you - tell your coworkder to bug off in a nice way :-)

i_Xp/VistaUser


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Response Number 9
Name: Judago
Date: May 8, 2009 at 07:05:30 Pacific
Reply:

It's a family owned business (I'm not one of the family, but most of my co-workers are) so pissing them off means looking for a new job. They are generally quite good about it though......


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Response Number 10
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 8, 2009 at 07:16:00 Pacific
Reply:

I don't THINK the file> print setting in IE7 is a global setting. But, as I said above I am not sure.

I have noticed that IE will sometimes automatically use other than default printer settings without any user intervention. One of those mysteries that you don't feel like wasting the effort on, normally.


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Response Number 11
Name: Judago
Date: May 8, 2009 at 07:38:11 Pacific
Reply:

From the testing I've been doing with my home printer the exact same thing seem to be happening, the setting aren't global but they don't seem to be saved either.....


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Response Number 12
Name: Judago
Date: May 11, 2009 at 00:07:27 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks to everyone for the help, it didn't work out because IE always seems to revert back to the default printer properties regardless, even using the printer properties. It does the same on my home machine....

Anyway I'm going to try other avenues....


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Response Number 13
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 11, 2009 at 04:19:15 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry we couldn't be of more help.


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Response Number 14
Name: Judago
Date: May 11, 2009 at 20:18:52 Pacific
Reply:

I'm happy to report I have resolved the issue.

IE would not set the bottom print margin to anything less that 5.08mm via the page setup menu, it would automatically revert to this number if something smaller was entered. Changing the margins in the registry (hkey_users\<user hive>\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\PageSetup\margin_bottom) stuck for smaller margins.

So now it works as it should as it should, printed as A4.


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