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Name: pinokiyo
Date: April 29, 2003 at 15:09:37 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Professional
CPU/Ram: Athlon XP 2100+ 512 MB
Comment:

Everytime on the bootup screen it says "No IDE cable installed" or something like that. What is it? My computer also makes this weird beep noise sometimes. Very rare but it's happened a few times.



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Response Number 1
Name: eddie
Date: April 29, 2003 at 15:46:44 Pacific
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If you would like the people here to help please give correct info re question.
Something ,"like it", is not very enlightening. The beeps can be of interest if you inform us of the beep sequence?


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Response Number 2
Name: pinokiyo
Date: April 29, 2003 at 16:16:51 Pacific
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Well how am I supose to explain what a beep sounds like? It just beats once in awhile... inside my computer itself beeps, not like a wav sound. But I'm not sure because I RARELY hear it (but it has happened more then once) and I have a router right on top of my computer so it could be coming from that. Anyways my main question was about 'IDE not installed' on boot screen.


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Response Number 3
Name: raincheck
Date: April 29, 2003 at 17:21:58 Pacific
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Pinokiyo, Eddie was not asking you to explain the beeps, but rather he wanted the exact error message regarding IDE.
I have never seen an error message saying anything about a cable, but if it says "no ide", it sure sounds like it's not seeing your HD or CDROM. Is it booting up?


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Response Number 4
Name: MoJo
Date: April 29, 2003 at 17:46:11 Pacific
Reply:

Does it say something like "No 80 pin IDE Cable Installed"?

If so, that just means that you probably have a 40 pin IDE cable installed instead of an 80 pin cable. An 80 PIn cable is used for ATA 100/133 (allows for faster transferring than 40 PIN cables)


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Response Number 5
Name: pinokiyo
Date: April 30, 2003 at 01:29:53 Pacific
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yeah it says No 80 pin IDE Cable Installed... I'm really newbie at this... faster transferring for what? What should I do?


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Response Number 6
Name: raincheck
Date: April 30, 2003 at 05:05:56 Pacific
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An 80 pin cable has a 40 ground wires, and 40 signal wires. A regular 40 pin IDE cable does not have the extra ground wire for every signal wire. Bottom line is, it provides better stability, and allows faster data transfers in and out of your HD. You can go ahead and keep using the 40 pin cable, it will not hurt anything, but you aren't taking adavantage of the faster 100/133 data transfer speeds of an 80 pin wire.


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Response Number 7
Name: raincheck
Date: April 30, 2003 at 05:08:33 Pacific
Reply:

The last line of my post should have said 80 pin data cable, not 80 pin wire, I don't want to confuse you..


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Response Number 8
Name: x86
Date: April 30, 2003 at 05:16:26 Pacific
Reply:

On newer drives and Motherboards they are designed to use 80pin IDE cables, you would need to search google as it is technically beyond me to explain. All you have to do is go to a computer shop and ask for a ATA 80 pin IDE cable, they have three connectors usually marked Master for the hard drive, secondary for the second hard drive or CD drive, the last connector is for the mothereboard. You will need to open up your PC to replace, the old IDE cable should have a red stripe down one side the new cable should have that too, if you orientate both cables the same it will go on, also most connectors have a guide on one side, so you can not put them on wrong way round, but not always.

If you have two cables in PC then replace both, after replacing go into the BIOS and look fot the AUTOdetect drives and it will set up the drives for you.

Good Luck!

btw ATA starts at 66 and is also 100 & 133 but only the poster above would be interested in that!


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Response Number 9
Name: pinokiyo
Date: April 30, 2003 at 15:09:22 Pacific
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I'm really don't know much about hardware. Could you explain to me in lamen's term?What is 100/133 and ATA? So the only difference is when I copy files to another drive it transfers faster? How much are the 80 pin cables? And will it work for my Athlon XP 2100?


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Response Number 10
Name: x86
Date: April 30, 2003 at 16:40:37 Pacific
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This is all I could find at short notice
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/ATA.html
but even I do not fully understand, all I know is that they recommend 80pin cables to go with the new Motherboards which support ATA66/100/133 and therefore I fit them, the computer works and it is fast enough for my client and myself. If you want to learn there is tons of info on the WWW by using www.google.com and typing in ATA IDE DMA .....


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Response Number 11
Name: MoJo
Date: April 30, 2003 at 20:02:28 Pacific
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Using 80 PIN cables will allow you faster transfer speeds. ATA 100/133 refers to you being able to theoretically transfer from Hard drive to hard drive at a rate 0f 100 MB/sec or 133 MB/sec. The 40 PIN cable only allows transfer up to 66 MB/sec.

ATA stands for "Advanced Technology Attachment"

You can buy an 80 PIN cable for less than $10 (US)

Yes the 80 PIN cables will work on your machine. That message that you orignally posted about only comes up when your computer DOES support 80 PIN cables but the cables just aren't installed.

Again, if you don't have a problem with your computer now you don't need to use the 80 PIN cables. The 40 PIN cables are fine.


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Response Number 12
Name: MoJo
Date: April 30, 2003 at 20:07:28 Pacific
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I should correct myself. I believe 40 PIN cables only allow transfer up to 33MB/sec? I think for ATA66 you still need to use an 80 PIN cable I think? I can't remember. I'm usre someone here will correct me :)


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Response Number 13
Name: pinokiyo
Date: April 30, 2003 at 20:59:50 Pacific
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Will like 'raincheck' said, I'm not takin advantage of my motherboard and it will make my computer more stable so I should change to the 80 pin? Since also I have 2 80 gig drives and I copy files a lot.


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Response Number 14
Name: MoJo
Date: April 30, 2003 at 21:46:45 Pacific
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Whether you switch to 80 PIN cables or not is up to you. But if you transfer files alot, you will probably notice an increase in transfer speed. Also installing 80 PIN cables is the same as the 40 PIN ones so you shouldn't have any problems switching over.


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