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Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 10, 2009 at 20:46:14 Pacific
OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU/Ram: 700 Mhz
Product: Ibm / THINKPAD T20
Subcategory: General
Comment:

I recently received a laptop that needed work. I have booted up the laptop once or twice but it shuts off at random times during boot. usually while it is in POST. i found that the dvd-rom was causing the problem but then the problem got worse. I loaded win xp on it and then it wouldnt boot after being turned off for a while so i ran the restore function. now it wont boot anything. i run the restore program over and over but it wont format the hard drive. im concerned that the battery is bad. please help!



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Response Number 1
Name: SkipCox
Date: January 10, 2009 at 21:29:21 Pacific
Reply:

?'s:

It's a T20. What is the type? It's a 7 digit number on the bottom label; XXXX-XXX

How much memory?

How did you find out the DVD drive was the problem? Did you replace it?

It had 98se and you installed XP? Why? Did you do a new install of XP or an upgrade?

Battery bad? Easy to check...just unplug the power cable. A bad battery doesn't mean much at this point and it's only a necessity if you're not around electricity or if you want to flash the bios.

One thing to try if the laptop has not been used for quite some time. Plug it in and see if it tries to boot after a day or two.

Skip


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Response Number 2
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 11, 2009 at 09:37:35 Pacific
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"I recently received a laptop that needed work".

Are you repairing this laptop as a professional?


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Response Number 3
Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 11, 2009 at 13:30:06 Pacific
Reply:

no, i am not a professional. i'm just a local computer nut that a works for free. this is my laptop by the way. i opend the drive and the computer remained on. by the way i did not get the actual power cord so im using a slightly lower voltage. i determined the plug is 16v that i need but im only able to use a 12v plug from an external hard drive I happen to have.
XP was an upgrade. as far as the battery goes, it only goes to 4 percent in a 24 hour period. and it wont charge anymore. but like i said i tried the restore function and it wont format the hard drive. im stuck trying to reinstall win98se. it wouldnt boot back into win xp pro so i am trying to run the restore ibm functions program and now i can't boot anything but the restore program.


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Response Number 4
Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 11, 2009 at 13:35:54 Pacific
Reply:

oh the thinkpad model is Type 2647-M2U
not sure how that helps but hopefully getting somewhere


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Response Number 5
Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 11, 2009 at 14:52:03 Pacific
Reply:

ok thanks for the help guys. i had to format the hard drive manually. once i got that done. the OS booted just fine. thanks for all the help!!


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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 11, 2009 at 16:00:44 Pacific
Reply:

Take care with using the wrong AC adapter. You can damage things that way.


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Response Number 7
Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 11, 2009 at 17:10:42 Pacific
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one last question...does this model have a network card in it. it's got a plug for network cable but it says it's a modem...any ideas?


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Response Number 8
Name: larryf215
Date: January 11, 2009 at 17:45:09 Pacific
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earlier thinkpads, like the p2 600e didn't have an intergrated network card. If your doesn't, you need a pcmcia network card. They are only about $20. You should get a univrsal laptop adaptor(I paid $30 for mine), the incorrect voltage could be the cause of your problems.

larry


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Response Number 9
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 11, 2009 at 17:51:23 Pacific
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Modem is 6 pins/wires. Network is 8 pin/wires. Phone connector will fit in the port but will not fill it. The link below is a generic description of that series laptop. It is not clear either. Go by what I stated above.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/s...


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Response Number 10
Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 11, 2009 at 17:52:27 Pacific
Reply:

ok the processor in this particular laptop is p3 900 but the OS registers it as a P3 700 and the pre-install stuff says is a P2 processor, no speed. according to the lenovo website, this is a Thinkpad T22. There is a network card plug but the OS only shows it as a dial up adapter and a Infrared adapter. there is nothing about a network card in it, even with the information software i downloaded on my desktop and transferred to the laptop.


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Response Number 11
Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 11, 2009 at 17:58:38 Pacific
Reply:

ok. i have both a rj-11 and a rj-45 connector. that means an integrated card with both modem and LAN. but its not registering as either. it just shows a dial-up adapter. i will try to remove and reinstall the device but i dont think that will solve the problem.


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Response Number 12
Name: SkipCox
Date: January 11, 2009 at 18:01:33 Pacific
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"oh the thinkpad model is Type 2647-M2U
not sure how that helps but hopefully getting somewhere"

We don't ask for information like this to pry into your personal life...we need to know what the hell we're working on.

You go to this site and enter the type number...

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/s...

Click on the little arrow next to the box where you entered the type number and it takes you here...

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/s...

Drivers, documentation, utilities, manuals, etc. The stuff you need to get the machine working after a format or OS install.

No network card...only a modem.

The power source you're using is enough to run the laptop but will not charge or very slowly charge the battery.

A pretty good old machine...if you don't like 98se, Windows 2000 is a good alternative either as a stand alone install or in dual boot configuration.

Have fun...

Skip


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Response Number 13
Name: SkipCox
Date: January 11, 2009 at 18:07:19 Pacific
Reply:

Just noticed your last post

"ok. i have both a rj-11 and a rj-45 connector"

Hmmm, a couple possibilities. The RJ-45 jack may not be connected to anything or you need to install the correct drivers.

It's time to download everything you can find for your laptop. Those downloads have a way of disappearing just when you need them.

Skip


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Response Number 14
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 12, 2009 at 06:11:46 Pacific
Reply:

Boot into the BIOS (setup) and see if the Network adapter is listed and Enabled.


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Response Number 15
Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 12, 2009 at 14:49:58 Pacific
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i already did that. it is enabled. at least it says a LAN is possible. but the OS is not showing one. possible that the BIOS is setup for one but one is not installed?


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Response Number 16
Name: Rayburn
Date: January 12, 2009 at 14:51:32 Pacific
Reply:

I suggest getting that adapter replaced with the correct one. It's rated at 16v for a reason.

WinSimple Software


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Response Number 17
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 12, 2009 at 14:54:14 Pacific
Reply:

Does a network adapter show in Device Manager?


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Response Number 18
Name: SkipCox
Date: January 12, 2009 at 15:42:42 Pacific
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"Does a network adapter show in Device Manager?"

We gotta know if it's there and if it has any problems...like no drivers or wrong drivers. IBM stuck several different cards in the T22. Is it identified as a certain device in BIOS or just as "Enabled"

Have you install all the drivers from the Lenovo website?

Skip


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Response Number 19
Name: ghrarkfyrebyrd
Date: January 12, 2009 at 18:41:43 Pacific
Reply:

no i haven't installed all the drivers. i thought that since there is a lucent modem in the computer and it shows up as a dial-up adapter there may not be a network card in it. the bios does not list a way to turn on, if at all, the network card. there is a dial-up adapter and a infrared network card. there is no listing of an unidentified ethernet card in it. so im concluding that im going to have to buy the adapter and put one in myself. i will be buying an AC adapter for the laptop that gives the proper voltage for it and see if that solves any problems. could be a good battery since it charged 4 percent in 12 hours on that 12 volt adapter i have. but i dont think the network plug on that back of the computer is hooked up at all.


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Response Number 20
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 12, 2009 at 18:47:30 Pacific
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"at least it says a LAN is possible".

What is the exact wording in the BIOS?


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