Solved I want to buy a ati graphic card.

October 23, 2013 at 07:07:32
Specs: Windows 7, 4GB
Hi,
I want to buy a ATI HD graphic card. Can you suggest me some good graphic card under 10k?
My computer specifications are as follows:
Intel i3 550
3.20 ghz speed
4 GB Ram
OS: Windows 7
Current Graphic card : ATI HD 4300/4500 series

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#1
October 23, 2013 at 10:05:27
What currency are you using? What is 10K?

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#2
October 23, 2013 at 10:26:17
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"Current Graphic card : ATI HD 4300/4500 series"

As it says, that's the series, it's not the exact model number. What's the purpose of the upgrade? What you have is probably an HTPC card so it's not much good for gaming. Look for a card that has at least 1GB of 128-bit GDDR5 memory. I don't know what 10k is either, but I'm gonna guess it's rupees. There's no reason you can't get an nvidia card, but if you prefer AMD/ATI, a good low cost gaming card would be a Radeon HD 7770.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#3
October 23, 2013 at 12:37:46
I want a graphic card for gaming. 10K is approximately equal to 100-120$.
If i go for ATI hd 7770, how would i get to know that my motherboard will support it?

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#4
October 23, 2013 at 12:38:13
10K = 100-120 $

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#5
October 23, 2013 at 13:01:02
If your motherboard supports the Intel i3 550, it will certainly support an HD 7770. The power supply is another thing to consider.

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#6
October 24, 2013 at 05:34:17
As your given link says and HD7770 requires 400watt. so how will i get ot know that my CPU will be able to provide 400 watt?

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#7
October 24, 2013 at 07:10:39
Your cpu will not supply any power, but your psu will. Open the case and look at the label on the side of the power supply. Look at the wattage, but more importantly, look at the amps listed on the 12V+ rails.

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#8
October 24, 2013 at 07:46:11
Its says my psu can supply upto 180 watt. which means HD7770 1GB card is out of my CPU's reach so should i go for the 2Gb one which requires 150 watt?

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#9
October 24, 2013 at 22:32:54
Its says my psu can supply upto 180 watt. which means HD7770 1GB card is out of my CPU's reach so should i go for the 2Gb one which requires 150 watt?
But my current graphic card i.e ATI HD 4350 requires 450 watt of supply then how was my psu able to supply it?

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#10
October 25, 2013 at 01:13:54
If you have never pushed the graphics card to its maximum capabilities then it would not have drawn the maximum current - just browsing the internet and running Office programs will draw far less current. As grasshopper says, the more important figure is what current the 12volt rails can supply. 180watts is very low, even for a cheap-end power supply, the lowest I remember seeing these days is around 230watt unless it's one of these miniature units, so you may need to double check that figure.

You will find that not all 450watt power supplies are created equally, and often a quality 350watt one will have superior specs and power handling capabilities compared to a cheap 450watt one.

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#11
October 25, 2013 at 03:10:09
No, i am pretty sure its 180 watt.
As seen inside my cpu :
Ac input: 100-127/200-240V-6/3A,50/60Hz
Output power: 180W(+3.3V & +5.08V=80W Max )(+3.3V & +5.08V & +12V=170W Max) (-12V & +5.08Vsb=13.66W max)
DC output: +12V---- 14A(yellow) -12V----0.3A(blue) +5.08V-----10A(red) +3.3V------16A(orange)
Standby output: +5.08Vsb-----2.0A(purple)
And i have streched my ccurrent graphic card to its maximum limit. I am a game freak. I have played MW3, BF3 and other such games but at low graphics cause thats the best my card could deliver.
And i have no idea what 12volt rails are.

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#12
October 25, 2013 at 04:42:38
"DC output: +12V---- 14A(yellow)" is what we are looking for.

Let's get this straight: Your computer's entire case including the motherboard, power supply, Intel i3 550 (your CPU), graphics card, etc. is NOT your CPU!!! Your CPU is JUST the Intel processor (Central Processing Unit or CPU) i3 550 that resides on your motherboard INSIDE your COMPUTER, COMPUTER SYSTEM or your computer's case to be more exact. This mis-naming of this component makes speaking about your system, very difficult and confusing. PLEASE keep this straight (and as much as possible, spread this word in India where this problem is the most persistent).

Let's face the facts, if you are going to be able to use ANY decent graphics card, you are going to have to FIRST purchase a decent power supply. ANY gaming level graphics card is going to require this!

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#13
October 25, 2013 at 05:03:32
I am really for the mis-naming, dont really have much knowledge about all that stuff.
So you mean to say is DC output: +12V---- 14A(yellow) is not good enough?
To be very straight forward, tell me any decent card that can can used without changing my power supply. Out of HD 7770 1 gb card and HD 7770 2gb, will anyone of them work with my system?

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#14
October 25, 2013 at 05:18:26
Sorry, I had to walk away...
A 'decent' power supply for entry level gaming would be like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
It has a single 12Volt rail, 80% efficiency rating (bronze level certified), active PFC, 32Amps available on the 12 Volt Rail, 3year manufacture's warranty, and a quality name brand.
Note: +3.3V@20A, +5V@20A, +12V@32A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@3.0A the 3.3V & 5V rails are not overinflated as they are on many cheap power supplies and the more useful 12Volt rail has honest-to-goodness Amperage to power your graphics card, probably more than many cheaper "500Watt" and "600Watt" models you will find sold in India.

To sum it up, you will need to purchase a quality power supply first before you look for a graphics card, even if this means that you need to put off purchasing the graphics card a few months to get what you actually need, rather than wasting money on a card that will not meet your needs. If you need to confirm exact compatibility of anything, you need to list the exact components by make and model number and/or the make and model number of the computer system you own and if it is not a name brand (HP, Dell, etc), include a link to the model on the internet.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#15
October 25, 2013 at 05:30:16
okay so basically you mean to say is that my psu will not be able to run hd 7770 2 gb card which requires 150 w power supply?
Supposingly if i dont go for a better power supply and use my current psu to run Hd 7770 series, what will the consequences?

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#16
October 25, 2013 at 05:33:12
You will find this site very informative on current graphics cards and how they shape up compared to the rest:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...
and, more technical:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

Please note that you will need a power supply with a 6pin PCIe connector which the Corsair card has and your card will not have.
Please note that even the HD 6570 requires a 300Watt power supply and while you could probably afford this one and the power supply, I would recommend getting the power supply first and waiting for the card you really want which will game better. - Your choice.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#17
October 25, 2013 at 05:37:25
No, the HD 7770 requires a 450Watt power supply since you also need to power the rest of your system, the 150Watt number (if correct) is JUST the power required for the graphics card it self through the 12Volt rail.
Look at the links I included above for more details.
Edit: I just checked that on the second link I sent, it is 80Watts for the card itself through the 12Volt rail, but you have to consider the entire system and the quality of the power supply for your purchase.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.

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#18
October 25, 2013 at 05:44:58
To answer the other question, you would have to try it to be sure, but you would probably find that it would appear to work at first, but it would freeze up when you tried gaming or anything graphics intensive.
Then there is the matter of the 6 pin PCIe connector which I doubt that your power supply has. If you have two free 4pin molex connectors, you would be able to use a PCIe 'Y' adapter which may or may not be included with the graphics card, but remember, this does not increase your power, it only lets you distribute it differently. You will find that your power supply will not be up to the task.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#19
October 25, 2013 at 05:45:13
See i am not really in a condition to change my power supply.
This is the link to my system
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

And this is the link to my current graphic card

http://www.flipkart.com/xfx-amd-ati...

can you tell me what is a PCIe?

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#20
October 25, 2013 at 09:10:56
Considering the computer you currently have I would suggest you plan on selling that unit as is, rather than attepting to upgrade. The power supply is NOT an ATX unit. You entire computer was never intended to be a gaming platform.

Power supplies that will fit and have 400/450W are NOT even available. You would need to migrate the motherboard to a new case.

You posted MOST of the information listed on your power supply. There is additional information there that your should post to verify what I stated in this response.

In addition to the above issue with the power supply, you would also need a low profile card at the very least.

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#21
October 25, 2013 at 11:47:12
so there's no way that i could run a HD7770 on my current system?

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#22
October 25, 2013 at 13:41:16
Sorry, there is no room physically and you would have a problem finding a power supply to fit with enough power. As OtheHill said, you would be better off selling it as a usable system and purchasing or building a gaming system when you can afford it.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#23
October 25, 2013 at 22:26:28
Okay. if i decide to keep my mother board same, will it be able to support 7770?
I dont have have info regarding my motherboard. All i know is it supports my Intel i3 550.

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#24
October 26, 2013 at 04:44:43
You can read the make and model number from information printed on the motherboard itself. If it is a decent board in a standard size and you still want to use it/upgrade it, you will have to purchase a new case and a new power supply as well as the video card at least, and possibly other things like case fans. Do NOT purchase a case that includes a power supply, they are typically junk. Post the motherboard info and other component details first to be sure it is worth the trouble.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#25
October 26, 2013 at 07:55:07
I am not sure you can easily mount a uATX motherboard in an mATX or ATX case. May need to do some adapting.

Cheaper to just start over and sell what you have. There is a market for those smaller/ compact cases, but not for gaming.


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#26
October 26, 2013 at 09:10:07
My cpu is lenovo h320. Can you tell me if ati 7770 will fit into or not.
LInk to my cpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

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#27
October 26, 2013 at 13:37:14
Every manufacturer of that card states you need 400/500Watt power supply. You have 130W.

The cards all appear to be between 4.38" to 4.85 inches high. Probably too long also.

The 7770 is a PCI 3.0 card, your PCI 16 slot is PCI 2.0.

The dimensions of your case include 3.9" total thickness.

To my knowledge no one makes a power supply of that wattage that will fit in your case.

Changing cases may still have problems. Mounting that small motherboard in a standard case will require adapting it somehow.

http://www.retrevo.com/search?q=Len...

In short, you can't do what you want to do.

I am tired of trying to convince you otherwise.

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#28
October 26, 2013 at 16:15:02
Agreed, since it is a working system in a compact case, you can easily sell it to someone who is interested in a machine for home business, internet/email/social media, young students, etc. If you can get back 60% to 80% of what you paid for it, you are doing very good, even 40% to 60% would not be too bad if you can afford the difference between that and a true gaming system or at least one that is easier to upgrade.
To do what you are trying to do, it will cost you more than you think, cost you time without your computer while you are making the change over (not easy if you have not done it before), and you will end up with a system that will be slower than a more modern system you could purchase. All at a price that will not be that much less than a new system or a completely new build.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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