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Name: Fuerza
Date: April 9, 2006 at 16:40:49 Pacific
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: Intel P4 2.4Ghz/1024 King
Product: Soyo mobo - MSI 865PE-Neo
Comment:

I need to replace the HSF on my MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum Edition as it is in the way of my new Thermalright XP-120. I tried reversing it but the capacitors are ALL in the way. Can anyone recommend a lower profile HSF for this chipset. Plus, I have NEVER changed a chipset HSF before - never really had a need to do so. Is there any good place on the Net that talks you through the process? For example, on my mobo, the HSD uses these two hook-like springs. After I unhook these, do you simply gently twist/pull the HSF off of the chipset? Input is appreciated.



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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: April 9, 2006 at 17:31:30 Pacific
Reply:

How about dumping the XP-120 & getting something else instead?


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Response Number 2
Name: Fuerza
Date: April 9, 2006 at 18:05:20 Pacific
Reply:

Wouldn't it be easier to just change the chipset hsf? I already have $48 in the XP-120 and another $15 on a 120MM Nexus fan to go along with it. Surely a chipset HSF will be cheaper. Plus, I read that if the chipset HSF is attached with adhesive it is unchangeable. Is that true? How could I find out if the manufacturer has done this? If it were attached with adhesives it would have these hook clips, right?


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Response Number 3
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 9, 2006 at 18:32:00 Pacific
Reply:

If a thermal adhesive was used on the chipset's HSF, then there wouldn't be any reason to secure it with the two hook-like springs.


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: April 9, 2006 at 18:43:31 Pacific
Reply:

It would have been easier if you'd considered the height of the NB heatsink before you bought the monsterous XP-120.

According to Thermalright, it should work with your board, but it's possible that "caps mechanically obstruct pipe slightly, cap tilting necessary"

http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_support_faq_motherboard_xp120_p4.htm


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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: April 9, 2006 at 18:47:27 Pacific
Reply:

It appears that the pipes are supposed to go on the caps side...here's a couple of pics. The 2nd one shows how the caps had to be bent out of the way so one of the pipes could wedge in between them:

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ThermalrightXP-120Review:NewsoundofSilen-jmke-4247.jpg

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ThermalrightXP-120Review:NewsoundofSilen-jmke-4248.jpg


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: April 9, 2006 at 18:48:46 Pacific
Reply:

Forgot the link to the article. That thing is just too ridiculously large!

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=3&artpage=853&articID=220


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Response Number 7
Name: Fuerza
Date: April 9, 2006 at 19:41:03 Pacific
Reply:

jam, thanks for all the helpful info. I did already go to the MSI site. It did say "okay" but that can't be, it simply doesn't fit easily. The 'bend the caps' option was for the 865PE Neo2-PFISR - which is not what I have.

I read several overclockers sites and it seems having the pipes oriented in either direction made no appreciable gains in overall cooling. It tends to cool the same amount regardless if the heatpipe bends are at the top or at the bottom.

Also, if I put the heatpipe elbows up and bend the capacitors, I still don't think it will fit at the chipset hsf. I am exploring the option of buying a zalman and having a friend of mine, who is a machinist, cut off the top third of the of the chipset hsf at an angle to allow for the cpu hsf to fit well. I have also found some very low chipset hsf's by dynatron, but they are screw type and I don't know an easy or quick way to convert them to clip spring types.


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Response Number 8
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 9, 2006 at 20:43:39 Pacific
Reply:

I'm sure you have your reasons for doing this, but the stock HSF on the Pentium 4's would have been just fine.

Moreover, the Pentium 4 is a thermally protected processor that is impossible to fry. Seriously, if it's not too late to return these components. You should do that.


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Response Number 9
Name: Galileo
Date: April 9, 2006 at 21:11:30 Pacific
Reply:

yeah, that or its time to get really creative...lol, hmmm, how'bout a copper base plate in between to extend the hight of the HS which would give you more clearance?

Common sense not required


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Response Number 10
Name: Fuerza
Date: April 10, 2006 at 14:16:59 Pacific
Reply:

Galileo, great idea! That came to me late last night but it has its problems too. The spring clips attached to XP-120 would, then, not reach if I put a copper spacer in between the two. Then I would have to rig up something to anchor the copper spacer to the CPU. Having the Zalman chopped is looking like the only option as I am not, never have been, a big fan of bending capacitors. (I did that on my second pc project and still think that is what made the mobo die way before it's time.)


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