Solved I need advice on how to sort out my startup loop, im stumped

May 12, 2012 at 06:44:26
Specs: WIN 7 ULTIMATE, INTEL CORE I7 920 2.66GHZ
HI I AM STRUGGLING WITH MY PC'S START UP PROCESS IM A BIT OF A NOOB AND THIS WAS MY FIRST FULL BUILD,
IVE GOT A CORE I7 920 LGA PROCESSOR (2.66 GHZ) WITH 6 GB OF PATRIOT DDR3 TRIPLE CHANNELRAM SIZE6144 MBYTES (SO SAYS CPUZ). MY MOBO IS AGIGABYTE X58A-UD3R AND IM RUNNING WIN7 ULTIMATE.
IVE HAD IT RUNNING GREAT FROM FIRST BOOT INSTALL,IVE ALLWAYS BEEN A MAC ENTHUSIAST BUT RECENTLY IVE BEEN USING WINDOWS MORE AND MORE, SO I PUT IT ALL TOGETHER BY THE BOOK,NO PROBLEMS AT FIRST BUT RECENTLY ITLL START WHEN I PRESS THE BUTTON THE GIGABYTE SCREEN WITH INSTRUCTIONS/WHICH KEY FOR WHICH BIOS OPTION THEN IT GOES TO BLACK SCREEN AND REEMS OF NUMBERS SCROLL DOWN,STOP,AND IT SAYS VERIFYING DMI POOL DATA THAN RECOVERING LOST DRAM SIZE THEN RESTARTS. THIS REPEATS 3/4 TIMES THEN WIN7 STARTS.
IS THIS SIMILAR TO YOUR PROBLEM ?,HAVE YOU SORTED YOURS? PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHATS TRANSPIRED OR IF ANYONE HAS THE SOLUTION TO MY GLITCH PLEEEEAAAASE HELP A EAGER BUT LEARNING NOOB. PS SORRY IF THIS IS THE WRONG THREAD IM STILL TRYING TO WORK THESE THINGS OUT.THANKS IN ADVANCE.

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#1
May 12, 2012 at 08:09:02
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Typing a post on the internet in all capital letters is considered to be the same as if you were SHOUTING all the words, and very rude !
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I'm assuming that you followed the directions in the mboard manual and had the AC power REMOVED to the case / power supply AT ALL TIMES when you were fiddling with plugging in and unplugging connections and components inside the case.
If you didn't do that AT ALL TIMES, you may have DAMAGED something.

Many mboards have an led on the surface of them that lights up when the power supply is supplying DC power to the mboard, even when the computer is NOT running. That led must be OFF when you're fiddling with plugging in and unplugging connections and components inside the case.
The power supply has capacitors that may cause that led to stay lit for a short time after the AC power to the power supply has been disconnected.
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It sounds like you have a ram problem.

It MAY be your ram has a poor connection in the ram slots.

See response 2 in this - try cleaning the contacts on the ram modules, and making sure the modules are properly seated:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...
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This hasn't got anything to do with ram errors, but READ your mboard manual. Some mboard models support three modules being in triple channel mode, but some DO NOT.

If the mboard DOES support three modules being in triple channel mode, they must be installed in specific ram slots in order for the triple channel feature to actually work.

If the mboard DOES NOT support three modules being in triple channel mode, three modules will be in single channel mode no matter which ram slots you install them in.
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If that doesn't help, you may have installed ram modules that are NOT 100% compatible with being installed in your mboard model .....

Patriot ram is known to be more likely to cause you problems if you don't make sure the modules you're using are listed for your specific mboard model by Patriot.

Similar often applies to G-Skil and OCZ ram.

Patriot has a ram configurator program.

Go here:
http://patriotmemory.com/

Scroll down to Memory Selector

Choose Motherboards, click on Go

You are supposed to use your specific mboard make and model with that to look up which ram modules are listed for (= are 100% compatible with) your specific mboard model.

If the part numbers of any of the modules found by the configurator program are a match to what you bought, then the ones you bought should work fine with your specific mboard model.

If NONE of the part numbers of the modules found match what you bought, then there's no guarantee the ram modules you bought will work properly with your model !.

However, their list of mboard models often doesn't list your specific mboard model, and if it doesn't, there's no guarantee the ram modules you bought will work properly with your mboard model.

(Patriot, G-Skil, and OCZ often don't have your specific mboard model listed. We have frequently heard on this web site about people having problems with G-Skil and OCZ ram, especially, that isn't listed for their mboard model. )
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E.g.

I recently assembled a 100% new system for a friend. He had bought a pair of DDR3 1600 mhz 4 gb "AMD Memory" modules, which are made by Patriot.

I had all sorts of strange problems when I installed Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit on that system.
Windows Setup completed successfully, but I was getting all sorts of oddball errors in Windows 7, and eventually Windows 7 would not load normally at all. It's built in troubleshooter could not fix the problem(s).

The ram tested fine when I used a bootable ram diagnostics program to test it with, sort of.
It found no ram errors, but that version of Memtest86 is supposed to be able to use all the cpu cores the cpu has to speed up the time it takes for it to complete one pass of all the diagnostics tests, and that wasn't working properly. The cpu , FX-8150, has 8 cores.

The same Memtest86 version on the same disk uses the two cpu cores found on another system I have fine - on an Athlon 64 X2 6000+

I went to the Patriot web site and used their ram configurator program. They DID NOT list the specific model of the Asus mboard I had installed - M5A99X EVO. They didn't list Asus anything above M4A89......!

(Update - they NOW list M5A99X EVO, but the part numbers listed do NOT include the one for the "AMD Memory" modules my friend had bought. )

After having tried installing Windows 7 twice, and having tried MANY ways of fixing the problems, I went to the Asus web site, and compared their list of tested ram modules for the specific mboard model to the ram modules I could buy for a reasonable price locally. I bought a pair of Corsair DDR3 1600 mhz 4 gb modules that are on that list, removed the "AMD Memory" modules, installed Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit again, and there have been absolutely no problems with that system since.
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If you DO have a problem caused by ram that is not 100% compatible, you will have to install Windows 7 from scratch after you have fixed that problem.


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#2
May 12, 2012 at 09:27:32
Turn off the Caps Lock & try again. I won't even waste my time trying to read that mess.

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May 13, 2012 at 11:18:45
Hi thanks for your helpful reply I apologise for my rudeness i'm not au fait with forum ettiquette,
my ram is seated properly as far as I can tell, I have cleaned the contacts, my mboard does support three modules in triple channel mode, but on checking with patriot my mboard is listed as supported for 2x2gb modules and 2x 4gb too so does that mean it only supports these specific modules in dual channel mode do you think?
also I noticed that on the 'system' page in win 7 it recognises 6gb ddr3 memory[RAM] installed 4gb usable. what does that suggest to you. it is still booting up on the 4th try and working great after that so I just put it to sleep rather than shutdown, but if running it will cause damage it looks like i need a change of ram. I have a dual channel kit of ocz ram as my spare so Ill check out there compatability now I think, again thanks for your time I really appreciate it.

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#4
May 14, 2012 at 19:55:10
You haven't said whether you REMOVED the AC power to the power supply at all times when you were fiddling with plugging in and unplugging connections and components inside the case.
If you didn't do that AT ALL TIMES, you may have DAMAGED something.
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"...my ram is seated properly as far as I can tell...."

Did you try re-seating it ? If you didn't try that.

Are the latches at both ends of the ram slots against the ends of the modules for all the ram slots the ram is installed in ?

'....on checking with patriot my mboard is listed as supported for 2x2gb modules and 2x 4gb too so does that mean it only supports these specific modules in dual channel mode do you think? ..."

Memory manufacturers often sell matched sets of two identical modules or three identical modules. It could be that Patriot just neglected to list some or all of the three module sets. If the part numbers of the individual modules in the 2 module sets are the same as the ones in your three module set, then a three module set should work fine in triple channel mode in your mboard model if the model supports three modules being in triple channel mode.

The important thing is the part number of the individual modules MUST be in the list.

"...I noticed that on the 'system' page in win 7 it recognises 6gb ddr3 memory[RAM] installed 4gb usable. what does that suggest to you."


32 bit operating systems have a 4 gb virtual memory address limit; 64 bit operating systems do not.

If you're using a video card installed in a mboard slot, all the ram installed in the mboard is available to Windows, if it's 64 bit. However, some bioses subtract a small amount, often 1 mb, for the conventional memory amount that's not actually available to Windows.

In the Start Search box, type: msinfo32 , press Enter.
On the right side of the resulting screen, beside the line Total Physical Memory it should say 6,144 mb (or a bit less) , if you have the 64 bit version of Windows 7 Ultimate.

If it does say 6,144 mb (or a bit less) beside Total Physical Memory,
the amount shown beside the line Available Physical Memory is the amount available after the memory demands of Windows and of the particular programs that have been loaded at the time have been met
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"....I have a dual channel kit of ocz ram as my spare so Ill check out there compatability ....."

The Patriot ram and the OCZ ram should have the same ram voltage specified for them if you mix installing Patriot and OCZ ram.
If the ram voltages are different, the bios automatically uses the lowest ram voltage - the modules a higher ram voltage is specified for is likely to not work properly bin that situation.

The ram voltage is often printed on the label on the modules, or you can look that up in the specs for the modules.
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If re-seating the ram does NOT get rid of this problem.....

"....THEN IT GOES TO BLACK SCREEN AND REEMS OF NUMBERS SCROLL DOWN,STOP,AND IT SAYS VERIFYING DMI POOL DATA THAN RECOVERING LOST DRAM SIZE THEN RESTARTS...."

That is NOT NORMAL!!

Test your ram with a memory diagnostics program.

E.g. the freeware Memtest86 is available on the web. You can make a bootable CD with the program on it and boot your computer from that CD.

If the ram does NOT pass the tests, try the diagnostics with one module at a time, and with one module that does pass in every ram slot.


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