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Name: Mario Jugend
Date: September 19, 2004 at 20:37:58 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
OS: W XP
CPU/Ram: 400 MHz/256 RAM
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I have an HP Pavilion 6470Z that has: 12 GB Hard Drive, Intel Pentium 400 MHz and 256 MB of RAM and a great ViewSonic Flat Panel.

I would like it to be faster but my pocket asks me if I could find another less expensive solution then buying a new one. Do you have any advise on upgrading it, is it worth it, and if so, what should I upgrade?

Thank you in advance.

MJ


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Response Number 1
Name: chrisman7 (by chrisman.7)
Date: September 19, 2004 at 20:50:52 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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You are about maxed out on the cpu (pentium 2)
the next and probably last step on this machine would be to get a 450 cpu for it.

Then the next step would be to buy an atx machine (pent 3 or equiv.)5oo mhz up to 1 gig

P4 up to 3.somthing note that you could also get amd and not pay for the name.


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Response Number 2
Name: giggles
Date: September 19, 2004 at 21:50:49 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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get a new harddrive! i have replaced 2 old hdds in 400-500mhz machines and they sped things up by a lot not to mention how much quieter they are
what i always get are western digital 7200rpm 8mb cache 80gig drives, here's a deal at bestbuy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384460160&skuId=4599777&type=product

after mail in rebates it's $50, but if you think it's too pricey then just forget it

what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other


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Response Number 3
Name: Michelle67
Date: September 20, 2004 at 02:52:22 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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I used to have a Tyan Trinity Board with a 500 mhz cpu and 256 ram. I bought another stick of 256 and it did increase the speed of the system. I did do alot of reading into the board to find out what the max was on the slots first because I had 3 slots and I wanted to make sure that I wasn't going to waste the money if they couldn't take any more than 128 each.


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Response Number 4
Name: Michelle67
Date: September 20, 2004 at 02:53:25 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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If you go to Crucial.com it will tell you what type and size of memory you can get.


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Response Number 5
Name: angrymen2001
Date: September 20, 2004 at 03:39:33 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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While all the above posts will help increase speed a little, you have to keep some things in mind. How much speed am I looking for? and what do I need the speed for? I looked up the specs fpr that PC and it is using PC100 SDRAM. Depending on what you're doing and what you want to do it for, you can buy some "all in one" mobos that will help your pocket. I built a computer for my neice as a graduation present and it cost me around $200 for an all in one mobo, AMD XP2500+, and 256M PC2700 RAM. Not a great computer, but one that would blow your current system away.

When all else fails beat the $%!* out of it!!!


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Response Number 6
Name: fordman
Date: September 20, 2004 at 13:16:01 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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In my opinion, Maxtor makes the best hard drives. Western Digital is very good too!!!

groups.yahoo.com/group/simplycomputers2


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Response Number 7
Name: zorki1c
Date: September 20, 2004 at 14:19:34 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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The thing you run into with a lot of brand name machines in that speed range is 1. They use boards or cases just enough different physically that the MOB can't be replaced with a standard ATX board. 2. Their power supplies are often in the 250 watt range -- too small for the needs of modern MOBs and accessories.

I had a great 450 megahertz Gateway mid tower. Case was heavy duty steel--really well built. I would have been able to replace the power supply but the area on the back where all the outputs are, was drilled specifically for a particular Gateway board. No aftermarket board would fit it.


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Response Number 8
Name: ludedude25
Date: September 20, 2004 at 18:01:38 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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I would just get a new fast hard drive and a ata 133 supported pci controller card for it.

I also perfer the Western Digital that giggles likes.

This should speed up some and will be compatable with any new pc if you ever make it to that point.

You could try and put a bigger cpu and more ram into it but why waste money on that old of a motherboard.

ASUS A7V8X
AMD XP 2700+ 2.17ghz
768mb ddr 2700
128mb FX 5200
WD 80gb
DVD R/RW


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Response Number 9
Name: giggles
Date: September 20, 2004 at 20:51:18 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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yes, definetly dont waste your money on that old of a board
buying a cpu that is 50mhz faster will make no difference and buying more of that slow pc100 will make no difference and will be very expensive

it might not even be worth buying the controller card for all the problems you could run into getting it to work(it might just be easier to use the ide controller on the mobo)

just get a new hdd like i said, and btw maxtors are terrible! they run hotter, they are more expensive, and i have heard many stories of maxtor harddrives failing shortly after their warranties had expired

western digital are known for their quality, speed, and low price
seagate also makes excellent hdds with the best warranty in the business-5 years

what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other


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Response Number 10
Name: ludedude25
Date: September 21, 2004 at 06:47:26 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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If someone is not familiar with installing a controller card then they might want to avoid it. But adding one can speed up hard drive responce from ata 33 to at least 100 on a WD drive. I doubt that board is ata 66.

I only have one Maxtor drive, a ata 133 7200rpm 30 gig which I haven't had any problems with so far, it's only 2 years old. They may have changed for the better but who knows.

Older problem drives I have delt with in the 15gig or older were Segate, Quantum, and Maxtor. I may be just lucky with WD but I got an old 850mb that keeps on goin and it's almost 10 years old.

ASUS A7V8X
AMD XP 2700+ 2.17ghz
768mb ddr 2700
128mb FX 5200
WD 80gb
DVD R/RW


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Response Number 11
Name: giggles
Date: September 21, 2004 at 19:37:39 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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quantums were pretty bad

whenever i buy harddrives, i always either get WD or seagate

what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other


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Response Number 12
Name: chrisman7 (by chrisman.7)
Date: September 26, 2004 at 11:02:01 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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Look for an atx barebones system W/cpu. (if you dont want to spend money on hard drives and cdroms). you can also find them with sufficent memory for used $150 new under $250
This would be a 1 gig to 1.5 or equivelent


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Response Number 13
Name: totty (by allan_totty)
Date: September 30, 2004 at 04:14:48 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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I always buy Maxtor or Seagate, but prefer Maxtor. I've had loads of WD failures and 2 with modern seagates (had loads with old ST125N's and ST225N's). I've never had a Maxtor fail, but I do agree that some of them run a bit hotter than I would like.

One thing I'm really surprised at is no one has asked what you use the pc for or told you to use performance monitor to work out exactly what is holding back it's performance.
You may need to scrap it and buy a P4 or similar or you might just need £30 worth of secondhand parts to upgrade.

Search the web for info on your PC, just because it's a PII doesnt mean it cant run a PIII up to around 1Ghz because some can. Powerleap adapters may also be worth a try, especially if you can pickup a cheap secondhand one.


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Response Number 14
Name: Tec2go
Date: October 8, 2004 at 19:48:42 Pacific
Subject: HP Pavilion 6470Z, I would like to
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Hi...sorry for the intrusion, is this a hd forum? Warranty returns...
WD=Allllll (means I don't count'em any more)
IBM=4
Seagate=1 :) means favorite.
Maxtor=1 :) still spinning nicely.
Try to opt for a p3 board, still plenty around, nice 600 to 800 range and good ram.
I recently installed an Asus cuc2 = $25.00
p3 1000 flip chip $65.00
hs&fan $16.00
256 megs rambus pricey!
All of this was placed in my wife's old HP 8485Z. The psu still runs great and there have been no problems at all.
Won't tax your mortgage either!

Frank


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