How hot is too hot?!

Dell / INSPIRION
June 29, 2009 at 01:03:27
Specs: Windows XP, 2Gb
I'm doing quite a lot on it at present but no games.
CPU temp: 54 degrees c 124 F
GPU temp 68C 154F

Playing COD4:
CPU 51
GPU 85

I understand a laptop cooler will only lower it by 10C


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#1
June 29, 2009 at 04:50:43
Did you google?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+hot+is+too...

i_Xp/VistaUser


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#2
June 29, 2009 at 04:57:57
You need to post the system temp & the avg room temp. And you said you do a lot "but no games", then list temps while playing COD4? I assume those temps are under load, but what about the other? Why is the CPU temp even higher on the 1st set of numbers? This is a laptop, right?? It would help to know that upfront...we shouldn't have to guess. And we need to know which CPU you're asking about, some CPUs run hotter than others. The P4 Prescott for instance generally runs much warmer than other CPUs. You've been posting a lot of questions in these forums lately...learn to supply the necessary info.

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#3
June 29, 2009 at 05:22:41
Sorry. Yes looked at Google hence the title :)
Didn't get any inspiration due to the massive differences. It seems to hot from what I read.
Inspiron 9300
GeForce Go 6800
Intel Pentium M
Av room temp is about 21-24

Normal load is about 80 processes, standard stuff.
I occasionally play CODe4 and that was when the GPU went to 85.

Right now under about standard load (running a backup, playing some music which I don't always do) it is:
CPU 50
GPU 69
External Samsung monitor through dualview 48


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#4
June 29, 2009 at 05:49:32
If you haved googled, you would have found a very useful link similar to the one below...

What temperature should my processor be running at?


What may be too hot for you isn't too hot for your Dell dimension.

i_Xp/VistaUser


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#5
June 29, 2009 at 06:08:53
"Intel Pentium M"

Too much trouble to list which Pentium M you have?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...

"Normal load is about 80 processes, standard stuff"

80 processes is standard?? I have roughly 40 on my desktop machine. I'm using a laptop right now & it has 50 processes. Sounds like you have a LOT of useless crap loading & running in the background.

"I understand a laptop cooler will only lower it by 10C"

ONLY 10C? Let's say your room temp is 22C (72F) & the temp went up to 32C (90F)...how does "only 10C" sound now?


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#6
June 29, 2009 at 06:13:40
"you would have found a very useful link similar to the one below..."

That chart is incorrect. It states, "Below are some charts of many of the processors and their average temperatures" but the temps listed are NOT the average temps...they are the MAX temps!

THE HEATSINK GUIDE: Maximum CPU temperature and maximum CPU power usage


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#7
June 29, 2009 at 06:28:43
Hey jam - thanks for correcting me. Your link makes more sense than what Computerhope posted.

i_Xp/VistaUser


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#8
June 29, 2009 at 06:41:26
I didn't realise there was more to the Intel Pentium M :)
Intel Pentium M 740J

That article says the max temp of the CPU is 100 but it's the GPU I'm worried about reaching temps of 85.

It's not so much whether it's under max operating temp but whether the actual operating temp is way too high.

80 seems about right - it's what I've always had. FTP connection programs, databases, messenger, ipod stuff, skype, mail, browsers, password protection, firewalls, AV, bluetooth, mouse stuff, then all the system things like svchost, logmein, game manager, postgres


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#9
June 29, 2009 at 07:17:36
"80 seems about right"

Many of the programs you listed do NOT need to load at startup...all they're doing is sucking up the resources. It would be better to start them manually on an as-needed basis rather than having them pre-load & not be used.

Would you let you car sit in the driveway idling all day just in case you needed to use it? or would you wait until it's time to use it & then start the engine?

I bet you could easily knock 20 or more entries off the list.


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#10
June 29, 2009 at 07:52:48
Maybe. I have
Some aren't available to turn off in msconfig or CCCleaner

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cmdagent.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MsMpEng.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\EvtEng.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\S24EvMon.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\WLKeeper.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\sched.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2\schedul2.exe
C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avguard.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\bin\btwdins.exe
C:\Program Files\iPod Access for Windows\iPAHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe
C:\Program Files\LogMeIn\x86\RaMaint.exe
C:\Program Files\LogMeIn\x86\LogMeIn.exe
C:\Program Files\LogMeIn\x86\LMIGuardian.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug\mdm.exe
C:\Program Files\Netdrive\ndsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\CDBurnerXP\NMSAccessU.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrB.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\RegSrvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ZcfgSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\Intel\Wireless\Bin\1XConfig.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ifrmewrk.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe
C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe
C:\Program Files\Elaborate Bytes\VirtualCloneDrive\VCDDaemon.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Netdrive\Netdrive.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe
C:\Program Files\COMODO\SafeSurf\cssurf.exe
C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cfp.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2\schedhlp.exe
C:\Program Files\Acronis\TrueImageHome\TrueImageMonitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Acronis\TrueImageHome\TimounterMonitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\dpupdchk.exe
C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apntex.exe
C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboTaskBarIcon.exe
C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe
C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\BTTray.exe
C:\Program Files\Digital Line Detect\DLG.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\J\Local Settings\Application Data\Autobahn\autobahn.exe
C:\Program Files\2BrightSparks\SyncBack\SyncBack.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Contacts\wlcomm.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files\ODL MetaTrader 4\terminal.exe
C:\Program Files\DealBook 360\DealBookFX.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE


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#11
June 29, 2009 at 18:51:50
You mean to say you don't see things on that list that don't need to be running? I counted 31 that if it was my system, would be disabled...in fact, there's quite a few programs that I never would have installed in the 1st place. Hey, it's your system...if for some reason you feel it's important for programs like CDBurnerXP, VirtualCloneDrive, iTunes, Windows Messenger, RoboForm, Eraser, Digital Line Detect, Autobahn, etc to load immediately at startup, that's your business. But maybe some of that crap has something to do with the constant problems you've been posting about?

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#12
June 30, 2009 at 01:03:29
CDBurnerXP, not necessary
VirtualCloneDrive, needed
iTunes, not necessary
Windows Messenger, needed
RoboForm, needed
Eraser, needed
Digital Line Detect, not necessary
Autobahn not necessary

any others you can see.
I've disabled a lot but quite a few that seem unecessary are actually needed.


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#13
June 30, 2009 at 09:04:02
I've tried to split this into ones I definitely need. There are a whole host of applications that I cannot seem to turn off in msconfig or via CCCleaner. Any ideas how to?

These I have no idea:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\EvtEng.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\S24EvMon.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\WLKeeper.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2\schedul2.exe
C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\bin\btwdins.exe
C:\Program Files\iPod Access for Windows\iPAHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug\mdm.exe
C:\Program Files\Netdrive\ndsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\CDBurnerXP\NMSAccessU.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ZcfgSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrB.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Intel\Wireless\Bin\1XConfig.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\RegSrvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\dpupdchk.exe
C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apntex.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Logitech\KhalShared\KHALMNPR.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe

These are needed all the time
C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe
C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cmdagent.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MsMpEng.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Contacts\wlcomm.exe
C:\Program Files\DealBook 360\DealBookFX.exe
C:\Program Files\MetaTrader - Alpari UK\terminal.exe
C:\Program Files\ODL MetaTrader 4\terminal.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe
C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\BTTray.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ifrmewrk.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe
C:\Program Files\Elaborate Bytes\VirtualCloneDrive\VCDDaemon.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exe
C:\Program Files\Netdrive\Netdrive.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe
C:\Program Files\COMODO\SafeSurf\cssurf.exe
C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cfp.exe
C:\Program Files\Logitech\SetPoint\SetPoint.exe
C:\Program Files\2BrightSparks\SyncBack\SyncBack.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2\schedhlp.exe
C:\Program Files\Acronis\TrueImageHome\TrueImageMonitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Acronis\TrueImageHome\TimounterMonitor.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboTaskBarIcon.exe
C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe
C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avguard.exe
C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\sched.exe


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#14
July 1, 2009 at 11:21:39
How many of these are Windows processes that are needed and which ones could be stopped in services or msconfig?

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#15
July 3, 2009 at 08:16:01
Right, I have got myself one of those laptop coolers.
The bottom of the laptop is noticeably cooler so much so that when you touched it before you couldn't hold your hand there for long, now you could.
However, the heat coming out of the back, presumably where it is supposed to is still fairly warm though I can keep my fingers there without damage (I'm guessing this is where the GPU is back right of lappy. The left side vent has some heat coming out of it but not as much)
The Everest temperature readings have not changed at all though. CPU is still 50. GPU 65+

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