Hey jam - thanks for correcting me. Your link makes more sense than what Computerhope posted. i_Xp/VistaUser

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I didn't realise there was more to the Intel Pentium M :) Intel Pentium M 740J That article says the max temp of the CPU is 100 but it's the GPU I'm worried about reaching temps of 85. It's not so much whether it's under max operating temp but whether the actual operating temp is way too high. 80 seems about right - it's what I've always had. FTP connection programs, databases, messenger, ipod stuff, skype, mail, browsers, password protection, firewalls, AV, bluetooth, mouse stuff, then all the system things like svchost, logmein, game manager, postgres

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"80 seems about right" Many of the programs you listed do NOT need to load at startup...all they're doing is sucking up the resources. It would be better to start them manually on an as-needed basis rather than having them pre-load & not be used. Would you let you car sit in the driveway idling all day just in case you needed to use it? or would you wait until it's time to use it & then start the engine? I bet you could easily knock 20 or more entries off the list.

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Maybe. I have Some aren't available to turn off in msconfig or CCCleaner Running processes: C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cmdagent.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MsMpEng.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\EvtEng.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\S24EvMon.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\WLKeeper.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\sched.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2\schedul2.exe C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avguard.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\bin\btwdins.exe C:\Program Files\iPod Access for Windows\iPAHelper.exe C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe C:\Program Files\LogMeIn\x86\RaMaint.exe C:\Program Files\LogMeIn\x86\LogMeIn.exe C:\Program Files\LogMeIn\x86\LMIGuardian.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug\mdm.exe C:\Program Files\Netdrive\ndsvc.exe C:\Program Files\CDBurnerXP\NMSAccessU.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrA.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrB.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\RegSrvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ZcfgSvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Intel\Wireless\Bin\1XConfig.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ifrmewrk.exe C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe C:\Program Files\Elaborate Bytes\VirtualCloneDrive\VCDDaemon.exe C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exe C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe C:\Program Files\Netdrive\Netdrive.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe C:\Program Files\COMODO\SafeSurf\cssurf.exe C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cfp.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2\schedhlp.exe C:\Program Files\Acronis\TrueImageHome\TrueImageMonitor.exe C:\Program Files\Acronis\TrueImageHome\TimounterMonitor.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\dpupdchk.exe C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apntex.exe C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboTaskBarIcon.exe C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\BTTray.exe C:\Program Files\Digital Line Detect\DLG.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe C:\Documents and Settings\J\Local Settings\Application Data\Autobahn\autobahn.exe C:\Program Files\2BrightSparks\SyncBack\SyncBack.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Contacts\wlcomm.exe C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe C:\Program Files\ODL MetaTrader 4\terminal.exe C:\Program Files\DealBook 360\DealBookFX.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.exe

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You mean to say you don't see things on that list that don't need to be running? I counted 31 that if it was my system, would be disabled...in fact, there's quite a few programs that I never would have installed in the 1st place. Hey, it's your system...if for some reason you feel it's important for programs like CDBurnerXP, VirtualCloneDrive, iTunes, Windows Messenger, RoboForm, Eraser, Digital Line Detect, Autobahn, etc to load immediately at startup, that's your business. But maybe some of that crap has something to do with the constant problems you've been posting about?

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CDBurnerXP, not necessary VirtualCloneDrive, needed iTunes, not necessary Windows Messenger, needed RoboForm, needed Eraser, needed Digital Line Detect, not necessary Autobahn not necessary any others you can see. I've disabled a lot but quite a few that seem unecessary are actually needed.

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I've tried to split this into ones I definitely need. There are a whole host of applications that I cannot seem to turn off in msconfig or via CCCleaner. Any ideas how to? These I have no idea: C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\EvtEng.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\S24EvMon.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\WLKeeper.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2\schedul2.exe C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\bin\btwdins.exe C:\Program Files\iPod Access for Windows\iPAHelper.exe C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug\mdm.exe C:\Program Files\Netdrive\ndsvc.exe C:\Program Files\CDBurnerXP\NMSAccessU.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ZcfgSvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrA.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrB.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Intel\Wireless\Bin\1XConfig.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\RegSrvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\dpupdchk.exe C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apntex.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Logitech\KhalShared\KHALMNPR.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe These are needed all the time C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cmdagent.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MsMpEng.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Contacts\wlcomm.exe C:\Program Files\DealBook 360\DealBookFX.exe C:\Program Files\MetaTrader - Alpari UK\terminal.exe C:\Program Files\ODL MetaTrader 4\terminal.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe C:\Program Files\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\BTTray.exe C:\Program Files\Intel\Wireless\Bin\ifrmewrk.exe C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe C:\Program Files\Elaborate Bytes\VirtualCloneDrive\VCDDaemon.exe C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exe C:\Program Files\Netdrive\Netdrive.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe C:\Program Files\COMODO\SafeSurf\cssurf.exe C:\Program Files\COMODO\COMODO Internet Security\cfp.exe C:\Program Files\Logitech\SetPoint\SetPoint.exe C:\Program Files\2BrightSparks\SyncBack\SyncBack.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2\schedhlp.exe C:\Program Files\Acronis\TrueImageHome\TrueImageMonitor.exe C:\Program Files\Acronis\TrueImageHome\TimounterMonitor.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe C:\Program Files\Siber Systems\AI RoboForm\RoboTaskBarIcon.exe C:\Program Files\Eraser\eraser.exe C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\avguard.exe C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\sched.exe

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How many of these are Windows processes that are needed and which ones could be stopped in services or msconfig?

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Right, I have got myself one of those laptop coolers. The bottom of the laptop is noticeably cooler so much so that when you touched it before you couldn't hold your hand there for long, now you could. However, the heat coming out of the back, presumably where it is supposed to is still fairly warm though I can keep my fingers there without damage (I'm guessing this is where the GPU is back right of lappy. The left side vent has some heat coming out of it but not as much) The Everest temperature readings have not changed at all though. CPU is still 50. GPU 65+

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