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How do I run 3 hard drives?

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Name: tynesider
Date: October 15, 2006 at 12:29:06 Pacific
Subject: How do I run 3 hard drives?
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: AMD Sempron,1gig ram
Manufacturer/Model: Sempron 2200+ 1.50GHz
Comment:

Hi, is it possible to connect 3 hard drives? I have 2 DVD drives so all the connections are taken.
Thanks


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Response Number 1
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: October 15, 2006 at 12:41:54 Pacific
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Get yourself a PCI IDE or SATA or IDE/SATA drive controller card that, which up to 2 or 4 IDE or SATA drives can be connected to, or get a USB 2.0 or Firewire connected external hard drive enclosure, with or without the hard drive already installed in it. The first option is much cheaper (as little $30 or less, usually comes with 1 data cable for up to 2 drives), if you have the space to install the drive inside the case and a spare PCI slot.


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Response Number 2
Name: ham30
Date: October 15, 2006 at 12:58:37 Pacific
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If you decide toget a PCI controller, make sure it's 48 bit LBA capable. That way you can use drives over 137gb.

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Response Number 3
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: October 15, 2006 at 13:16:52 Pacific
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Tubesandwires' response is on the money.

But, do you know if your mobo already has SATA connectors? Do you already have the hard drives and are they PATA or are you planning to purchase another drive(s)?

If you are planning to get another drive and your mobo already supports SATA, you could just get a SATA drive. Or if you already have PATA drives and you do have SATA support on your mobo, you can get a SATA to PATA converter. But, unless it is a lot cheaper to do that I would go with the PCI IDE controller card because of the additional flexibility it provides.

One thing to note. When using a PCI controller card you will experience longer boots. I've used about three different PCI controller cards in different systems and I'd say the boots too anywhere from 45 - 60 seconds longer. But, that could just be my experience.

Michael J


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: October 15, 2006 at 13:33:24 Pacific
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Do you really NEED two DVD drives??? Take one out & connect the 3rd HDD.


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Response Number 5
Name: Sabertooth
Date: October 15, 2006 at 13:46:23 Pacific
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I concur - two DVD drives are unnecessary.

Once you've removed the one you do not need, the remaining four devices can be connected via the master and slave IDE channel on the motherboard.

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Response Number 6
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: October 15, 2006 at 14:19:24 Pacific
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"Do you really NEED two DVD drives??? Take one out & connect the 3rd HDD."

It depends on how he uses his computer. I have 2 DVD drives as well. Makes the process of creating 1 to 1 copies of discs very easy. I backup all of the DVDs I buy for my kids and the process can take a while. Much easier to put in the original and a blank and set up the process and not have to switch disks when the re-encoding process is complete which can be anywhere from 30 minutes to several hours.

Michael J


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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: October 15, 2006 at 14:30:29 Pacific
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Burning "on the fly" is quicker but it generally produces more coasters.


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Response Number 8
Name: tynesider
Date: October 15, 2006 at 15:03:58 Pacific
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Hi, Quick response and really good info, thanks alot. 2 DVD drives like Michael J said makes it easier to copy disks. I was given a 3rd hd and just thought it would be easy to install, after all the computer cases come with loads of free bays.Anyway thanks again for your help and I will be looking for a 48 bit LBA capable PCI controller.


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Response Number 9
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: October 15, 2006 at 15:17:23 Pacific
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'Burning "on the fly" is quicker but it generally produces more coasters.'

Using 2 DVD drives to back up DVDs does not burn on-the-fly. The files have to first be ripped to the hard-drive, then possibly reencoded, before it is burned to the blank disc. But since it can take quite some time, it is easier just to set it up with the original and blank in separate drives, set up the process and walk away.

Michael J


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: October 15, 2006 at 15:48:17 Pacific
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I guess for some people it's too inconvenient to pop out the original, then pop in the blank.


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Response Number 11
Name: Sabertooth
Date: October 15, 2006 at 16:15:56 Pacific
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"The files have to first be ripped to the hard-drive, then possibly reencoded, before it is burned to the blank disc."

The above totally makes mincemeat, the logic behind getting two drives to begin with.......................LOL

I wonder what happens when you have two or more DVD's to replicate - telekinesis........................hmmmmmmm


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Response Number 12
Name: Badboy
Date: October 15, 2006 at 17:17:40 Pacific
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Do you have USB 2.0?

You can get an enclosure that will house an IDE HDD or a DVD drive and you can make either an external USB 2.0 device.



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Response Number 13
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: October 15, 2006 at 19:54:41 Pacific
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"I guess for some people it's too inconvenient to pop out the original, then pop in the blank."

"The above totally makes mincemeat, the logic behind getting two drives to begin with.......................LOL"

It's all about each person using their computer how they want to use their computer.

As I stated, when I start a rip it can take anywhere from 30 minutes to several hours. The encoding process is quite demanding so I don't usually use my computer during that time and I don't want to just stand around for a couple of hours waiting to put the blank in. It's much easier to set it up and start the process when I go to bed.

Michael J


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Response Number 14
Name: jam
Date: October 16, 2006 at 07:48:21 Pacific
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The point is, two DVD drives aren't absolutely necessary & the easiest/cheapest way to add a 3rd HDD would be to eliminate one of the optical drives.

Adding a PCI controller card is another option, as is using an external IDE HDD case.


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Response Number 15
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: October 16, 2006 at 12:35:00 Pacific
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A lot of things aren't absolutely necessary. But we all get to decide for ourselves what is necessary for our own needs. Otherwise we could all just be using $300 Dells.

Michael J


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