How do i get programs to work from old HD?

March 5, 2011 at 08:30:35
Specs: Windows XP Home, AMD 3.2 Duel core 8 gb
I upgraded my hard drive and have my old hard drive as a slave so i can still access everything on it so my question is this.

how can i use my programs that are installed on the old drive from the old drive without reinstalling again? i have 1 program that i put a short cut to on my desktop, as i use it daily, the short cut points to the programs folder on the old drive but when i click on it to use it, i get a message that tells me the .exe file cant be found and i need to install the program.

i have all my program's set up files in a special folder on the old drive but with 60+ programs on the old drive, i am hoping there is an easier way to get them all to work without re-installing each and every one of them.

i want to keep the programs where they are but just want them to work like they did before i upgraded the hard drive. is there a folder or file on the old drive that i can copy to the new drive that would have the programs needed info in it so they will run like normal?


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#1
March 5, 2011 at 08:54:56
how can i use my programs that are installed on the old drive from the old drive without reinstalling again?

The simple answer is you cannot. There will be setting and registry entries relating to the programmes that do not exist on the old disk. You will need to reinstall them, no way round it.

Only the very simplest of programmes will run without being installed. Try running the programmes directly form Windows Explorer. Some of them may work, most of them wont.

Stuart


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#2
March 5, 2011 at 09:03:51
If the old hard drive has Windows installed on it, and if Windows was installed on it when the drive was connected to the same mboard, you can use a free program available on the web site of one of your hard drive brands to copy the data contents of the entire physical hard drive to another physical hard drive. If the destination hard drive is larger, you can make the individual partitions larger on the destination hard drive.
Then you swap the old hard drive for the new one, or change settings in the bios so the computer boots from the new drive, and Windows will work fine, all the programs will not have to be re-installed.

E.g. If you have a Seagate or Maxtor hard drive Seagate has MaxBlast and another program that can do that.

Other than that you have to install the programs individually.


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#3
March 5, 2011 at 10:13:32
If you want to continue to run the programs & don't want to re-install them on the new HDD, just boot off the old HDD. I assume that it was working in the same system prior to upgrading? You can either enter the BIOS & change the boot order to boot off the old HDD whenever you need to, or you can install a boot manager.

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#4
March 5, 2011 at 14:55:39
I have tried going to the old registry and seeing what entries are there and changing the new registry to match. Other times I have moved the files and then added in the old registry to the new. Problem is that may or may not work .Some programs are real stinkers and put stuff in a special place that is linked to the installer.

Other way may be to make a virtual machine out of the old install with either a p2v app or simply clone it to a vm image. Then run the old system as a virtual machine.

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#5
March 5, 2011 at 16:15:41
thank you everyone for the replys.

Unfortunately using the old drive to boot off of isnt an option as windows will not load, i get a "dosmenu.bat file is missing" error message when it trys to boot up. I upgraded the HD for this reason rather then just reformat as i have data on external HDs that are useless without the programs on the old drive so i wanted to be able to at least get my set up files for all the programs before i reformat so i would have them to reinstall on the new drive but since i can access all the files on the old drive, i plan to just use it as a slave or back up drive for storage.


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#6
March 6, 2011 at 14:11:55
"Unfortunately using the old drive to boot off of isnt an option as windows will not load, i get a "dosmenu.bat file is missing" error message when it trys to boot up. "

I did some searching on my generic Microsoft OEM XP MCE 2005 installation and on an XP Home SP2 CD - dosmenu.bat (and dosmenu.ba_ on the CD) is not on them

I searched on the web using: dosmenu.bat file is missing

and found

ALL of the hits I looked at got that error ONLY on Dell systems, and it was ALWAYS:
Batch file F:\DOSMENU.BAT is missing

Note the F .

Apparently you can also get that message when you use the Dell diagnostics,

or the Dell Resource CD...
https://wiki.mst.edu/itcomm/redeplo...

Excerpts:

Possible Problems while using the Resource CD

a.) When Booting, the file F:\DOSMENU.BAT is missing:

This is likely caused by the motherboard on one or both of the IDE channels. To correct this and continue with the test, go into the system BIOS and disable the IDE channel with the hard drive on it. You may have to disable both IDE devices on that channel (ie IDE 0). This does not mean that the hard drive is bad. In most cases, it's still possible to reload windows (after enabling the hard drive). It is also possible to test that hard drive by using another machine.
....

One of the "hits" said he got the same error with the same hard drive after he had replaced the mboard.

I'm speculating that the F partition the dosmenu.bat file is supposed to be on is only on the original hard drive software installation on Dell computers.

Some of the "hits" suggested that the fact the dosmenu.bat file can't be found probably indicates

- the hard drive has corrupted data - it may be failing - test the drive with hard drive manufacturer's diagnostics

-or - data in the master boot sector on the hard drive is corrupted - you could try booting with the Dell XP Re-installation CD or similar most Dell computers that had XP on them come with, and going into the Recovery Console and running fixmbr.

OR - you could try booting with the Dell XP Re-installation CD or similar most Dell computers that had XP on them come with, and doing a Repair installation of Windows, which will NOT delete the personal data that you have added to the hard drive.

That doesn't always help but it takes less than an hour to run it and find out whether it does or not.

(However, test the drive with hard drive manufacturer's diagnostics BEFORE you do that.)

You MAY be able to copy the missing dosmenu.bat file from the hard drive of someone else's Dell system and place it on the F partition on the drive, however the F partition is probably normally hidden.


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#7
March 6, 2011 at 21:52:11
thanks .. yes it was a dell system and I had tried all that before i bought the new hard drive .. with the recovery console and the dell re-installation disk even tried doing a repair from the re-install disk and none of it worked.

But as of today, its not a dell system anymore lol. I just had to replace the motherboard today as I couldn't access system setup at all, its like it wasnt there at all and when i took the whole thing apart because it wasnt recognizing some of my hardware each time i booted up, i found some of the capacitors slightly swollen and starting to bulge at the top even tho they looked brand new with no corrosion. so its now a semi dell system with a few new different parts besides the new hard drive.

yes the F partition is hidden. we had the old drive tested and it isnt failing so its most likely the data in the boot sector is corrupted and that is what the PC tech told me.

i will just leaves things as they are and use it as an external drive/slave drive

thank you for the information


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#8
March 6, 2011 at 22:32:24
Thanks for the thank you.

"...we had the old drive tested and it isnt failing so its most likely the data in the boot sector is corrupted and that is what the PC tech told me."

In that case....

"....booting with the Dell XP Re-installation CD or similar most Dell computers that had XP on them come with, and going into the Recovery Console and running fixmbr...."

and fixboot might fix the problem in 5 minutes or less.
........

You can't use the Dell XP re-installation CD to install Windows from scratch or run a Repair installation if the mboard does not have a Dell bios version, or if it does but the mboard model is not of the ones the CD was intended for.
........

Some mboards develop this problem - electrolytic capacitors were installed on them that were not properly made, and they fail eventually - the mboard manufacturer didn't know they were improperly made at the time the mboard was made.

This was the original bad capacitor problem - has some example pictures.
History of why the exploding capacitors and which mboard makers were affected:
http://members.datafast.net.au/~dft...

What to look for, mboard symptoms, example pictures:
http://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=5
Home page that site
- what the problem is caused by
- he says there are STILL bad capacitors on more recent mboards.
http://www.badcaps.net/

Pictures of blown capacitors, other components, power supplies, fried Athlon cpus, etc.:
http://www.halfdone.com/Personal/Jo...


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