Help with identifying motherboard

March 1, 2011 at 07:22:23
Specs: Linux i686, 2.80 ghz/2 gig
Hi a friend wants me to ID this motherboard. I can see it is a server and has two cpu's and the main chip on the board is an AMD(see second picture) but i can't see what the boards name is.
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Thanks would appreciate the help as i googled but nothing exactly matched my search :0)

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#1
March 1, 2011 at 08:08:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlpt...

Just another stupid saying...


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#3
March 1, 2011 at 13:37:14
I guess googling "amd 766 dual processor motherboard" was too much of a chore?

http://www.tyan.com/archive/product...


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#4
March 1, 2011 at 14:25:33
Mick - Google? Wha..what's that?


;-)

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#5
March 1, 2011 at 17:33:41
Thanks PC Geek but there was only what i said on the board so that is why i asked.

mickliq-as i did say. I did google and i didn't find that site you have listed. Can't seem to sort out on there what the cpu sizes are. I guess i will have to take the fans off to take a look. I put some ram in last night to boot this thing up and was wanting to get into the bios but it doesn't could be a faulty product? Light goeson on the front of the case and there are no error sounds or whatever they are called....beeps thats right! :0)

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#7
March 1, 2011 at 20:47:57
siw is good and so is everest Both can be put on and run from a floppy...free

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#8
March 2, 2011 at 05:57:14
Both the above utilities run under Windows. I don't think they are going to help with this issue.

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#9
March 2, 2011 at 07:04:31
Oh, I missed that OtheHill, I guess that's why I never use that OS

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#10
March 2, 2011 at 07:15:54
Yeah i haven't been able to get into the bios. Hmmm maybe the bios battery needs replacing or the cpu needs reseating. Is it one of those dual core type computers? I haven't seen them. My question dual core the same as having two cpu's?

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#11
March 2, 2011 at 07:35:31
No, it is not the same. You have two physical processors. What you are referring to is a processor with more than one core. Kind of like multiple processors in one package running in one socket.

Are you seeing anything on the monitor when you start up? If not, it probably has nothing to do with the BIOS or the CMOS battery.

Do you have memory installed? All you need to POST is the power supply, motherboard with CPU/heat sink/fan, memory, monitor and keyboard.

Are you using a PS/2 keyboard?

Are you tapping the Del key continuously after start up?


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#12
March 2, 2011 at 07:35:50
rap - I'm just trying to be happy and useful (per the guidings of the Dalai Lama)....
...beep, beep beep, let's back this truck up. In your post #5, you mention that this may be a faulty product...did you mean RAM or MOBO? Where did this motherboard come from? Is it any good? Was it dropped/mishandled?

You should be able to get into a BIOS with a bad CMOS battery, the CMOS just needs to be reset then.

RE: CPUs http://www.pugetsystems.com/article... having two processors isn't the same as dual core. Dual core is 2 processors working together in one circuit. A two CPU motherboard has the CPUs seperated.

Just another stupid saying...


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#13
March 2, 2011 at 07:41:14
PC GEEK

Let me bring you up to speed on rap. He salvages old parts and cobbles together systems, which he gives away. I doubt he knows before hand if hardware is good or not.

If memory serves me correctly he also has visual impairment, which would explain why he can't read the labeling on the board.

rap, did I get that right?


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#14
March 2, 2011 at 07:49:47
LOL (or col) ok.....the clarification is good...


Be happy & useful, I like that....

Just another stupid saying...


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#15
March 2, 2011 at 08:10:57
Hey OTheHill thanks...i have asked myself about the dual core thing...glad you cleared that up for me :0)
Nothing is showing up on the monitor. Just the Dell thing on the first session which is obviously the monitors thing. I don't know what that is called :0)
Yep i repeatedly try F1 and Del. Tapping them because i never know which on works for whatever machine. Hmmmmmm i am glad most machines that i come across i don't have these problems. I know it must seem so with all my questions as you know OTheHill i come across a lot of old stuff. Anyway it is not a machine i will be using and i have to remember i do actually solve a lot for people around me that have no money :0)
No i am using a usb keyboard. Should i try using a ps2? I have seen one time i got machine to boot when i put the ps2 kb in. Then i installed the OS(Linux) and on the next boot put the usb in and everything was cool. Is that what you were eluding to?
Yep memory installed. I did that as for some reason my friend didn't have any in there. I am pretty sure the sticks are working. I keep a collection of ram of most types. I tried double sided and single sided ram. The two pairs i tried were the same as each other. I also tried all of them in the 4 slots.

PC Geek-I dunno i am too tired to read back into the thread so can't remember what was said :0) Bed time for me zzzzzzzzz :0) Its a friends machine. I actually do fix a majority of the friends machines i come across. Most of the time it is OS or MS issues but some of the time it is simple things like reseating ram. It is rare i ask much here as most things are easy. That is why i am not good with terminology because i just get in there and somehow fix stuff he he. A fluke i guess.
I have another friend that is really 'good' at mishandling machines and i am always telling him off. I am careful :0) Who knows what happened before this machine came to me but this person wants to use it so i thought i would access it so he can put some hard drives and get it happening. There are no hard drives in there now. Haven't got a spare one right now but might have one in a few days.
So what is the purpose of two cpu's?
Ha ha yes i do come across a lot of old stuff and i am giving away a majority of machines. I am a she actually :0) My disability is CFS/M.E ......basically a foggy brain. Was not supposed to even be able to do anything but i am making great strides. Reading is good. I have better than 20/20 vision. Honestly there is stuff all on this board! I even got the magnifying glass out and i don't even need it :0)
Don't worry i am an easy going person :0) Believe me the amount of people that are surprised that i can do anything at all....well they can't believe it :0)

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#16
March 2, 2011 at 08:19:15
rapattack is a woman.

mickliq

How did you come to the conclusion it's that Tyan mboard ?

rapattack

"No i am using a usb keyboard. Should i try using a ps2? "

Legacy USB or similar must be enabled in the bios Setup in order for you to be able to get into the bios with a USB keyboard.
On older mboards that may not be enabled by default.
A PS/2 keyboard will normally always get you into the bios.


Do you see any stuck on labels on the mboard that have bar codes ?
If so, quote the part numbers on them.



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#17
March 2, 2011 at 08:55:22
"Nothing is showing up on the monitor. Just the Dell thing on the first session which is obviously the monitors thing".

I would call that something on the monitor. You are evidently seeing the Dell splash screen. The POST screens are probably being hidden by that splash screen. If you can use a PS/2 keyboard you may be able to either disable that splash screens or get the hardware information to show. Try tapping the Esc key to show the POST screens.

The fact that you are seeing anything on the monitor is a good thing. Means the board is working.

So this is a Dell server board then?

Rapattack, I apologize if you are a woman. I don't ever remember you posting that.


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#18
March 2, 2011 at 10:07:08
OtheHill

" Rapattack, I apologize if you are a woman. I don't ever remember you posting that."

She didn't, as far as I know. I determined that from what she said in a Topic I answered a lot of posts in.

rapattack

If it's in a Dell case...
Go here for how to find the Service tag "number":
http://support.dell.com/support/top...

Tell us what it is.

If it isn't in a Dell case, the Service tag "number" is often shown in the bios Setup.


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#19
March 2, 2011 at 10:46:01
Tubes, I have also followed lots of here threads. That is how I knew the details I did know. Guess I missed one or more of them.

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#20
March 2, 2011 at 11:09:27
It was one of the Topics with a lot of posts and I was the only one answering after a while. She's never reacted to us assuming she's a he in any of her Topics I've seen. Perhaps she just doesn't want to be treated differently because she's female.

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#21
March 2, 2011 at 11:46:42
Hmmm...There is another program called NSSI free and bootable off a floppy.

It's dos based, so booting off it is best.


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#22
March 3, 2011 at 00:59:20
Tubesandwires-Oops silly me i didn't realise i did have the ps2 keyboard plugged in. OK so that is eliminated. OK had more of a search and there is a part that says 'Tyan S2460' plus a sticker that just has the letter A. Ah so that is the motherboard. OK not i have googled that info...mystery solved he he. Just need to know the cpu info to see if it is a machine worth doing something with. Thats if it boots he he.

mickliq-you were right about the board brand :0)

OtheHill-Yes the Dell splash screen, Forgot that it was called. Ok will see if ESC does something :0) Oh no Dell is the monitors brand! Oh he he maybe i never said i was a woman because of the whole thing about being anonymous. I dunno i like talking techie with the boys. Not much of a girly do my nails type! I never took anything in a bad way!

Tubesandwires-Its all good :0) Not a Dell so we have the board ID solved ....thanks :0)
You it Tubes. I like being one of the mob :0)

worldlibrary-http://www.navsoft.cz/ so this is it. I don't have a hard drive in the case yet as i haven't got one spare. Just accessing this machine to see if it is viable for my friend. Don't know where he got it from and i am always willing to help out someone when they can't afford a computer new.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#23
March 3, 2011 at 02:54:26
I found this page http://www.tyan.com/archive/support... . So it is a Tiger MP which runs from 1-1.2ghz. Does that mean each cpu? Why is there 2 cpus?

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#24
March 3, 2011 at 08:36:19
Most brand name system builders don't make the mboards in their systems in any case - they are supplied to them by mboard manufacturers. Sometimes they use desktop mboards that are the same as retail models except that they have the brand name's bios version rather than the mboard manufacturer's version. More often they use OEM only models - made only for brand name system builders - they have the brand name's bios version. The same OEM only model may be used by more than one brand name system builder - e.g. mboards made by Intel.

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#25
March 3, 2011 at 23:18:55
Sorry Tubes i don't know much about what that means. I never did understand what OEM meant and as for shops i have no clue. Only ever bought one computer new and it was from an asian shop that was out of the way.

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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#26
March 4, 2011 at 07:07:47
Rap

OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. These are the big brands like Dell, Acer, Toshiba, etc. They are large enough that they have motherboards and other components customized for them. Especially the BIOS features. OEMs don't want many options in the BIOS. Basically they want one size fits all. OEM can also be applied to hardware components and versions of Windows.

There are only a handful of actual motherboard manufacturers. These manufacturers may produce motherboards with their own brand name on them and also manufacture motherboards to the specs of the companies mentioned above.

Shops refers to computer shops or computer repair shops.

In response to your #23 response, Tyan is a company that specializes in server class motherboards. The motherboard in question here predates the invention of multi-core processors. So, to get more work out of one computer they have TWO processors.

The reference to 1-1.2GB is the range of processors that will work on that board. You need to remember that not too long ago that a 1GB processor was the brass ring, so to speak. I don't keep up with server class motherboards but I will state that the line between server class and even consumer class, has blurred. It is not about raw power anymore. Server class machines still need reliability and usually lots more memory. More dependable memory at that. Server class also usually need lots of disk storage with dependability. Dependability means redundancy. That can be in the form of a RAID array with the ability to hot swap hard drives without shutting down. They may also have redundant power supplies.

Hope that more than answers your questions.


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#27
March 4, 2011 at 08:16:49
An "OEM only" mboard model is a model made by the mboard manufacturer who supplies mboards to one or more brand name system builders that is used only for brand name system builder's systems. There is no exact same retail mboard model that the mboard manufacturer sells, and there is no support for OEM only mboard models on their web site, the only exception to that I know of is the Intel web site has support for SOME of their mboards that are used only in brand name systems.

When you need to find info about an "OEM only" mboard model, you usually have to rely on finding whatever info the brand name system's web site provides about the mboard. Some brand name system brands are pretty good at providing most of that info for desktop computers - e.g. the HP web site generally, sometimes Gateway, sometimes Dell - but you seldom find info about the details such as the pinouts of front panel headers or USB headers etc. in their info. Other brand name system brands provide no info at all about their desktop "OEM only" mboards - e.g. Emachines

There is an excellent third party web site that has collected info about the mboards used in the emachines desktop systems
http://www.e4allupgraders.info
and he often has a manual listed in the Downloads for a mboard. He's no longer allowing downloads, but you can search the web using the name of the manual download file or the name of the file at the end of the URL when you click on the link to the manual that no longer works as a starting point and clue as to what you need to look for.
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Original Equipment Manufacturer in general
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin...

OEM regarding computers
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/OEM...
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This term has two meanings

OEM (original equipment manufacturer)
http://searchitchannel.techtarget.c...

OEM
http://encyclopedia2.thefreediction...


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#28
March 5, 2011 at 07:07:19
Wow that is a lot of info guys and i think i understand 60-80% which is good for me he he. Brains a bit slow these days. I will read it a few times and i am sure it will sink it. You know i think i have been posting on computing.net since i got my first 386 or 486 machine from a charity. In the win98 days but that old machine had win3.1. I digress :0)
Anyway thanks for the lesson. I will try and find time in the next two days to plug the machine in again and see if it boots up with ESC key i think!

"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama


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