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Name: sekia
Date: December 1, 2005 at 09:14:58 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
OS: win 98
CPU/Ram: Celeron , 128
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hello,
i have an old computer desktop with celeron intel inside
but it doesnt have cd rom
anyway the hD is about 40gigs
and there's no OS in it
i bought external rom and trying to connect it
but it wont recognize the external rom
is there any way to make my HD works?
right now it wont acces anything but from floppy disk
thanks


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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: December 1, 2005 at 09:34:19 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
Reply: (edit)

Is the external USB?


If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.

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Response Number 2
Name: name
Date: December 1, 2005 at 09:46:37 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
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"external rom" Do you mean "external CDrom"?

You need drivers for any of that kind of hardware, and many newer external drives are only supported by Winbows.

Can't you afford a few bucks for a CDROM?

Can't you temporarily "rob" the CDROM out of another machine?

If you are not installing X tra P utrid, you can actually install ME, 98, or other systems by using a transfer cable from a second computer.

(Actually, you CAN install XP this way,but it's a real pain.)


I assume you at least have a floppy drive so that you can boot the machine, and partition/ format the drive?

There are few other ways.

Pop the target drive into your other machine, and partition, format the drive, and copy the install files to the drive.

I would partition the drive into at least two partitions, and copy the setup files to the second partition. If you are setting up 98/Me that's easy. Just copy the \win98 "directory" to the second partition, when done put back in the target computer, boot with a '98 floppy, and run setup from the second partition.


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Response Number 3
Name: plainandsimple
Date: December 1, 2005 at 11:36:16 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
Reply: (edit)

Does this old PC recognise the full size of the hard drive in BIOS ?

If the hard drive is recognised correctly you need an USB DOS Boot Floppy if the you meant an USB CD Drive, see:

http://83.67.55.228/USBDOS.exe

http://www.windowsreinstall.com/

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307848


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Response Number 4
Name: plainandsimple
Date: December 1, 2005 at 11:37:05 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255867


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Response Number 5
Name: sekia
Date: December 1, 2005 at 16:53:27 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
Reply: (edit)

hello , yes it is external cd rom
but i just bought flash drive USB as well
and i downloaded USBDOS to help me detect my USB on DOS.
well the software works good , just be able to detect my flash drive.
im using SanDisk Cruzer Mini 0.2 with 1.0gigs
it says :
ASPI Device : ID:0 LUN:0 = SanDisk Cruzer Mini 0.2

Installed ASPI manager

a:\>mscdex.exe /d:cd001
Device driver not found: 'CD001'
No valid CDROM device drivers selected
a:\>smartdrv.exe

thats it.
how do i access my SanDisk?
thanks


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Response Number 6
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: December 1, 2005 at 17:04:48 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
Reply: (edit)

fdisk /status


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M2


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Response Number 7
Name: sekia
Date: December 1, 2005 at 17:20:13 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
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after booting from usbdos
i change the floppy to startup disk to get fdisk but it says wrong dos version



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Response Number 8
Name: sekia
Date: December 1, 2005 at 17:41:21 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
Reply: (edit)

ok it the fdisk doesnt show up my flash drive even im booting with same version of DOS.
but with USBDOS boot disk i can see that my flashdrive was SanDisk Cruze mini
but i dont know how to access it.
i already put the setup windows on the flash drive
thanks


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Response Number 9
Name: jubalsams
Date: December 1, 2005 at 20:29:09 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
Reply: (edit)

There are no DOS usb flashdrive drivers. Get CD-ROM working and copy win98 folder to HDD as "name" says.

Best


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Response Number 10
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: December 1, 2005 at 23:30:31 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
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"There are no DOS usb flashdrive drivers. "

Well... DOS reads mine.

So, did you get fdisk to run after loading USB?

And how did you put the setup files on the flash drive?



If at first you don't succeed, you're about average.

M2


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Response Number 11
Name: joya
Date: December 2, 2005 at 02:37:30 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
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hmm can as another poster as just said use a CD rom drive from another PC and its not realy hard to put the drive into another pc copy the install files from the cd to the hard drive then put it back in

"Kernrel Panic"


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Response Number 12
Name: GX1 Man
Date: December 2, 2005 at 23:48:46 Pacific
Subject: help installing HD without cd rom
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Put this drive in another computer and copy the CD files to the hard drive. Anything else will make you crazy.

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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