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HDD-related booting problem

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Name: rturro
Date: August 23, 2005 at 23:50:57 Pacific
OS: WinXP Pro English
CPU/Ram: AMD Athlon 2100+/1024 MB
Comment:

I can't boot up the PC. I have two HDDs, one (20 GB) is Primary Master, the other (15 GB) is Secondary Master. The PM is the system one, and the one I have problem with in that I can't boot it up. I booted from a Windows 95 Boot diskette, launched fdisk utility, deleted all partitions, re-created them, made them active, then re-booted again from the diskette and launched format c: /u. On 14%, the computer suddenly makes three short high-tone bips (bip-bip-bip) and everything goes blank. The monitor goes to Sleep, the keyboard won't respond, and I basically have no other option but to reboot, only to repeat everything once again and get the same problem. What could this be? Is it a bad HDD (but it allowed me to fdisk everything) or something else? I need to figure out the problem rather quickly because it is my working computer.
If anyone has any clue, please respond--your help is greatly appreciated!



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Response Number 1
Name: jubalsams
Date: August 24, 2005 at 01:57:05 Pacific
Reply:

Three beeps may be bad ram (or badly seated ram), try removing a module/different slots:

http://www.techadvice.com/tech/B/BeepCode.htm

Beep code depends on the BIOS EPROM you are using.

Best


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Response Number 2
Name: rturro
Date: August 24, 2005 at 02:28:53 Pacific
Reply:

jubalsams

thanks a lot for your help.
however, why does it allow me to boot, do everything I described, and only then it bips three times and goes blank?
I will try your advice re RAM but I am really not sure if the problem is with RAM


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Response Number 3
Name: ham30
Date: August 24, 2005 at 09:47:48 Pacific
Reply:

Download a diagnostic from the hard drive manufacturer's web site.


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Response Number 4
Name: ray96
Date: August 24, 2005 at 12:49:30 Pacific
Reply:

If the HDD Diagnostics turn out OK, get a Windows 98 bootdisk from bootdisk.com, and use that one instead. I've heard that the 98 disk is better than the 95 one.

If God has to teach someone a lesson more than once to get them to learn it, it just goes to show how stubborn they are.


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Response Number 5
Name: Rick McNabb
Date: August 24, 2005 at 15:39:05 Pacific
Reply:

the "beeps" may be coming from the drive, although drives don't beep.

All fdisk does is write the partition tables, much less work for the drive than formatting it.

Have you used this drive before - had issues with it before - use diagnostic program from the manufacturer.


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Response Number 6
Name: rturro
Date: August 24, 2005 at 22:28:13 Pacific
Reply:

never had this problem before.
Changed the HDD - the problem remains.
though it could have been RAM modules - changed them around, to no avail.

basically, I have no idea now what this problem could be. One thing for sure - it is not related to my HDD. With the brand new HDD (80G Barracuda) I continue to experience the same problem.

Now this is how it looks:
1. I boot from a diskette - RAM check, BIOS, all OK.
2. The A:\ prompt - OK.
3. fdisk - create partition, make it active - OK
4. Reboot (again, from the diskette).
5. format c: /u - begins formatting, then, at some point (not necessarily same all the time), three short beeps (beep-beep-beep) and everything goes blank - the monitor goes to Sleep, the keyboard does not responde, I only have only blinking cursor on the screen.
6. Reset (or power off/power on)
7. Boot from a Partition Magic boot disk - OK
8. The mouse-enable menu goes on - OK
9. When the program loads, I can see the graphic image of the disk
10. Again, delete the disk, re-create the disk, format it.
11. Formatting (from within Partition Magic) begins, after a while (could be at 10%, could be at 15%, no correlation here) three short beeps and everything goes blank (see above).

Tried booting from:
Win95 boot disk
Win98 boot disk
Partition Magic 8 boot disk
Norton Ghost boot disk

... Norton Ghost boot disk boots ok, I have the graphic environment, then I choose to restore the Ghost image from my second drive, the process starts ok, then after awhile - three short beeps and everything goes blank.

So, as you can see it is NOT software related problem, and it is NOT HDD-related.
RAM modules - I doubt they're faulty because I changed them around (I have two by 512 MB and I never had any problem with them), inserted one by one, changed the slots - the problem still remains.

Now I think, could this be motherboard related, or CPU related?

Any ideas?


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Response Number 7
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: August 24, 2005 at 22:38:46 Pacific
Reply:

Take one of the 512s out and try again. Better yet, if you have a smaller stick like 128 or 256 use that instead. 9X can have problems like that with RAM 1 gig and above. I don't know if it's also true for their dos utilities but it's an easy thing to check.


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Response Number 8
Name: rturro
Date: August 24, 2005 at 23:58:33 Pacific
Reply:

DAVEINCAPS

I have Win XP


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Response Number 9
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: August 25, 2005 at 01:14:37 Pacific
Reply:

It's irrelevent what OS is on the hard drives. What matters is what OS is on the bootdisks you're using. 95 and 98 have problems with ram 1 gig and above. (I don't know about PM and ghost.)

That may not be the reason but it's easy to check.


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Response Number 10
Name: rturro
Date: August 25, 2005 at 03:09:45 Pacific
Reply:

I've restored my Ghost image ten or more times in the past, never with a slightest problem, and I tried booting from a Ghost boot disk this time as well.
So I am pretty much inclined to think it is not a RAM vs. OS related problem.


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Response Number 11
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: August 25, 2005 at 11:30:17 Pacific
Reply:

You're probably right, but still, it'd only take 30 seconds or so to pull one of the sticks.

You may want to run a zero fill utility on the drive (even though it's new) just in case the previous attempts have done some damage.

Even though you've probably already checked, make sure the HD is properly identified in cmos, the data cable is in good shape and tightly connected and the drive is jumpered correctly.


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