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HDD: SATA vs SATA2?

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Name: kelvin
Date: April 19, 2006 at 08:09:05 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 2.66GHz/1GB
Product: Dell Dimension 4550
Comment:

I'm a pretty newbie with hardware. But is the bottle neck on the interface bus speed, or the motherboard bus speed?

Just using some random number as example:
- HDD is at SATA 300MB/s (such as a WD5000KS)
- I have a SATA controller card now to support the HDD
- my CPU is a Intel 2.66Ghz, 512K, 533FSB

isn't my CPU now and the motherboard bus speed the limitation now, that I can't gain the maximum performance of the HDD?

I read the original posting, and it was helpful
http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/33616.html



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Response Number 1
Name: kelvin
Date: April 19, 2006 at 08:15:42 Pacific
Reply:

Just wanna link the precise CPU spec of the one on my system.


Intel 2.66GHz 512k Cachs 533MHz FSB - sSpec Number SL6DX:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL6DX


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Response Number 2
Name: Death_Knight
Date: April 19, 2006 at 08:51:17 Pacific
Reply:

The difference between a SATA I (150mb/s)and a SATA II (300mb/s) (two exact drives beside the interface) only have about 5%-10% performance gain over SATA I.


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Response Number 3
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: April 19, 2006 at 09:16:53 Pacific
Reply:

The biggest bottleneck these days is the "base" hard drive speed, then the hard drive interface speed. The 300mb/s rating of an SATA 2 drive, the 150mb/s rating of an SATA drive, the 133mb/s rating of an EIDE drive, etc. are all maximum "burst" speeds - they cannot be sustained over a long period of time . The data transfer rate after the "burst" speed max time has been exhausted is much lower than that - the "base" max speed. Max burst speeds can't be sustained for more than a few minutes, if they can even achieve that.
Most of the time this doesn't matter much because a computer mostly transfers data in short bursts of time, and the larger on drive caches drives have these days and the "intelligent" routines built into the drive's board are a big help with that. So most of the time the bottleneck is the hard drive max interface speed.


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Response Number 4
Name: ham30
Date: April 19, 2006 at 09:30:32 Pacific
Reply:

And the max sustained speed for drives these days is well under 100mb/s.


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Response Number 5
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 19, 2006 at 10:08:25 Pacific
Reply:

By tube's standard that is a good and well summarized one liner.....hahaha

http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/6723.html


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Response Number 6
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: April 19, 2006 at 10:27:15 Pacific
Reply:

It's a lot lower than 100mb/s.

e.g. If you search using: sustained
here:
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php

you will find the sustained data tranfer rate is e.g. 61 mb or less for current drives.

For older drives it was even less.

- e.g. 17 to 29 MB/Sec for thus SCSI drive that has a 3xx mb/sec "burst" rate.
- detail here about sustained data transfer rates

Sustained data transfer rates for SCSI hard drives (detailed overview).
http://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/maxtor.cfg/php/enduser/olh_adp.php?p_faqid=59
.......

"By tube's standard that is a good and well summarized one liner.....hahaha"

He did say he was a newbie.


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Response Number 7
Name: Badboy
Date: April 19, 2006 at 16:20:12 Pacific
Reply:

So does buying cheap IDE HDDs right now makes more sense?


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Response Number 8
Name: Cobra_R
Date: April 19, 2006 at 22:41:50 Pacific
Reply:

most entry level IDE hard drives now are ATA 100, 2mb cache and 7200rpm now of days, which is funny because just a few years ago those specs on a hard drive were one of the best specs you can get on a hard drive.

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Response Number 9
Name: Badboy
Date: April 20, 2006 at 04:35:25 Pacific
Reply:

Really, right now, is the performance of an ATA 100, 7200 RPM, 8MB buffer HDD competition for a SATA or SATA2 HDD?


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Response Number 10
Name: ham30
Date: April 20, 2006 at 11:01:05 Pacific
Reply:

There is pratically no difference in speed between IDE and SATA drives at this time.


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Response Number 11
Name: Badboy
Date: April 20, 2006 at 11:16:42 Pacific
Reply:

I believe that what ham30 has written is true.

I've only used a SATA HDD in one of my last 5 computer builds. IDE HDDs are cheap, easy to set up, and offer no real DISadvantage over SATA with our current technology.


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Response Number 12
Name: kelvin
Date: April 21, 2006 at 15:12:36 Pacific
Reply:

tyvm for every technie in-depth explaination! i am a comp-sci major myself, but when it comes to hardware i'm a super-duper-newbie.

again, much appreciated for the help!

As i initially suspect, i should stay with the regular EIDE with my current UDMA100 on the motherboard. the whole SATA/SATA2... is just a marketing push!!!


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