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Name: j1mm3h
Date: June 9, 2006 at 20:04:37 Pacific
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: P4 1.3/640MB
Product: HP
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Hello, recently I made a purchase of a new hdd to replace my old 40gb HDD which I ran out of space in. I bought a 250gb seage from new egg and after a rather difficult install of the OS(I guess my comp. doesnt support boot from cd...then I was installing with floppys and one file in floppy #4 was corrupt, so yeah I had to disconnect new drive and make old drive master again about 4 times and yeah ) I finally got to the desktop, and I went to my computer and it showed that my drive was only 127gb(and yes when I made the partion the MB's was in the 1's so I knew something was wrong)and Im guessing this is so because of my old motherboard? So where do I go from here? I have a 250gb thats formated to 127gb, I would just like to get all the Gb's that I could get out of it. I herd that SP2 fixed that problem, and I guess it did because before it was only reognizing my drive as like 130 GB now it recogonizes it as 250gb, so can I make my new drive a slave and format it within windows? will that get my my full 250gb? and yeah I know after format it will be like 230 or something like that. What other options do I have? Thanks in advanced.



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Response Number 1
Name: Sabertooth
Date: June 9, 2006 at 20:20:10 Pacific
Reply:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303013


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Response Number 2
Name: Sabertooth
Date: June 9, 2006 at 20:28:22 Pacific
Reply:

Apparently you've gotten past the 127GB barrier, didn't see this part until I read your thread all over.

You can go ahead with the slave backup plan by formatting it from XP's disk management console and designating the drive as a secondary HDD afterwards.


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Response Number 3
Name: j1mm3h
Date: June 9, 2006 at 20:52:35 Pacific
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Hello and thanks for the quick response. I think you guys are not quite with me, let me start over. Ok I bought a new HDD, then I made my new HDD the master and my old HDD the slave, so I went and installed windows but it only formatted to 130gb, then I installed sp2, it now recognized the 250gb but it was still formatted the same, of course. So now If I format my new HDD as a slave through windows can then I go ahead and make it a master? or if I format it as a slave can I only use it as a slave?thanks for the help.


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Response Number 4
Name: ham30
Date: June 9, 2006 at 21:27:08 Pacific
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I would suggest that you split the 250gb drive into at least two partitions. A small partition for the OS and one or more larger partitions for programs and data.

Do yourself a favor BACKUP!
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Response Number 5
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: June 9, 2006 at 21:33:17 Pacific
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Yes you can partition and format it as slave and then move it to master to install the OS.

But your computer should support cd booting. Check in cmos/bios setup and set the cdrom as the first boot device.

If the XP disk won't partition/format it fully, the manufacturer's disk should. If you don't have it you can download what you need from their site.


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Response Number 6
Name: j1mm3h
Date: June 9, 2006 at 22:26:44 Pacific
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Ham, can you please elaborate? why should I do that and how would I go by by splitting the drive in two? I herd that splitting the drive like that, is good for performance.

Dave, Yes I tried everything. I put Cd as #1 boot device and it always said error boot disk not found or something of that sort.. I dont know what else to do. So what would you recomend? because I already have alot of drivers, programs and SP2 installed and I dont want to do that all over again? Back up? then format as slave, then make it master again and instert boot disks and go on with the reinstall? Thank for the help!


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Response Number 7
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: June 9, 2006 at 22:58:16 Pacific
Reply:

There's software that should be able to stretch the existing partition to cover the entire 250 gig. PartitionMagic should do it and there's others. I believe it works OK with XP but haven't ever tried it.

But if you're not inclinded to redo the 250 with a new installation then Ham30's suggestion is probably best. You'd partition the empty space as a second partition and them create a logical drive within it. In My Computer three hard drives would show--2 drives on the 250 gig and then the third on your original drive.

I haven't done it with XP but you should be able to just right click on the existing drive in My Computer and then choose the appropriate option.


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Response Number 8
Name: j1mm3h
Date: June 10, 2006 at 00:26:00 Pacific
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Yeah I went and right clicked but I didnt find an option. Can anybody help me out here. Thanks


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Response Number 9
Name: jessejames
Date: June 10, 2006 at 00:53:23 Pacific
Reply:

You need to go into DISK MANAGEMENT


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Response Number 10
Name: j1mm3h
Date: June 10, 2006 at 02:19:10 Pacific
Reply:

Ah yes Disk Management. Ok well I went into it and it displayed the unformated space, so I went to "new partition" and It gave me two options primary, or extended? and logial was grayed out. Which one should I use? Can somebody explain this to me, Im rather new when it comes to Formating, making partitions and all that stuff. Thanks for all the help!



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Response Number 11
Name: Sabertooth
Date: June 10, 2006 at 08:21:31 Pacific
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Just do primary.


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Response Number 12
Name: j1mm3h
Date: June 10, 2006 at 10:05:15 Pacific
Reply:

Ok so it's going to be a 107gb partition. The main partition is 127gb, now somebody was saying that I should use one for windows and the other for games and stuff like that. Can somebody elaborate?Thanks for the help.


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Response Number 13
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: June 10, 2006 at 13:27:35 Pacific
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It doesn't matter what you put on the drives.

I think you'd partition it as an extended partition. The primary partition is the existing 127 gig.

Then (at least with dos and 9X dos) you'd create a logical drive within the extended partition and format that. I don't know if XP does it differently.


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Response Number 14
Name: j1mm3h
Date: June 10, 2006 at 13:30:22 Pacific
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AH! One tells me primary the other tells me extended? what do I do?


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Response Number 15
Name: Sabertooth
Date: June 10, 2006 at 17:44:45 Pacific
Reply:

I suggested primary because like most HDDs, this is being setup as a basic disk thus allowing up to 4 primary partitions that can co-exist with individual partition table format (FAT or NTFS).


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Response Number 16
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: June 10, 2006 at 21:25:10 Pacific
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Go ahead and try primary. A typical setup with dos fdisk only allows one primary partition on a drive. But the XP partitioning tool is different so it may work out. Besides, it'll tell you if it can't create the partition as primary and no damage will be done.


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Response Number 17
Name: j1mm3h
Date: June 11, 2006 at 22:04:27 Pacific
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I did primary guys. Thanks for the help.


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