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Name: db1964
Date: May 13, 2006 at 12:42:36 Pacific
OS: win2000
CPU/Ram: p3/192
Product: Gateway/Performance 800
Comment:

WD153AA failed. Replaced with a WD204BA 20 GB HD. The hard drive is correct in BIOS but not seen during Windows2000 install. I have none of the Gateway CDs that came with the system. Ideas?



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Response Number 1
Name: egkenny
Date: May 13, 2006 at 14:15:10 Pacific
Reply:

Is the drive jumper set correctly? You have three choices:
1. Master
2. Slave
3. Cable Select (CS)
Some computers want you to use Cable Select (CS). With others you can use either Master/Slave or Cable Select. Check your old drive to see which method they used.

To make a drive a Master select the Master jumper and connect it to the end IDE connector. To make a drive a Slave select the Slave jumper and connect it to the middle IDE connector.

If the Cable Select jumper is selected then plugging the drive into the end connector automatically makes it the master drive. Plugging the drive into middle connector automatically makes it a slave drive.


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Response Number 2
Name: db1964
Date: May 13, 2006 at 14:50:46 Pacific
Reply:

I currently have the CS jumper set and the drive is plugged into the end connector (marked master). Thanks for the effort though.


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Response Number 3
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: May 13, 2006 at 14:57:27 Pacific
Reply:

try changing it to master

Hopefully my advice will help you...Please post back with your results....thanks


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Response Number 4
Name: db1964
Date: May 13, 2006 at 15:04:26 Pacific
Reply:

With master jumpered the hd is not seen by the bios. HD is still connected to the end connector.


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Response Number 5
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: May 13, 2006 at 16:48:10 Pacific
Reply:

Does the Windows2000 install do the partitioning and formatting? If not, that's the reason.


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Response Number 6
Name: db1964
Date: May 13, 2006 at 16:54:00 Pacific
Reply:

Windows never sees the hard drive. The BIOS only sees it with the jumper for CS. Could there be some Gateway software missing?


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Response Number 7
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: May 13, 2006 at 19:53:58 Pacific
Reply:

Not likely.

When you say windows doesn't see the drive do you mean that a working 2000 system doesn't see it when attached as a second drive or do you mean the windows installation doesn't see it?

I'm not sure about how 2000 partitions so just temporarily get a 98 bootdisk and boot up the computer with it. At the a:\> prompt type fdisk and enter, Y to large disk support, then option 4. Exactly what does it say?

If 98 fdisk see the drive OK then the problem is probably not with the drive. If you don't have one, you can get a file to create a 98 bootdisk at www.bootdisk.com.


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Response Number 8
Name: Mike Newcomb
Date: May 14, 2006 at 01:24:23 Pacific
Reply:

When a device is jumpered for CS, the end IDE cable connector is master, the middle is slave.
This is true for both primary and secondary IDE cables.

If jumpered for Master or Slave, any connector is used.

If jumpered for slave, if there is another device on that IDE cable, it may need to be jumperd for 'master with slave' as opposed to master.

If the new hdd is to be drive C:, is it possible you have 'wrongly' connected it to the secondary IDE?

Check in the bios:-

a) to see that all the hdd capacity is 'seen'. If not, a drive manager program will need to be downloaded from the hdd makers website.
b) sometimes in the bios a device has to be enabled in more than one place.

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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Response Number 9
Name: db1964
Date: May 14, 2006 at 16:11:24 Pacific
Reply:

I went to bootdisk.com and made a 98 boot disk. When I booted to the A drive and ran fdisk the response was "no fixed disk present". The BIOS sees the HD as the primary master.


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Response Number 10
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: May 14, 2006 at 19:11:01 Pacific
Reply:

For western digital drives, a single drive has no jumpers. If there are two drives on the same cable then you jumper the 'master' as master.

That may not be it since the bios seems to see the drive but check anyway.

Make sure the drive is identified properly in cmos--usually as AUTO.

Make sure the connection is tight. The bios may see a HD even if the connection is bad or loose.

If it's none of those I'd think the drive is bad.


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Response Number 11
Name: Mike Newcomb
Date: May 14, 2006 at 23:27:57 Pacific
Reply:

Has the hdd been used before? If so:-

If the bios 'sees' the hdd with ALL its capacity,
but the o/s does *NOT* see the hdd,
AND the hdd has been used previously,
1) check the hdd params as sometimes these can differ for the same hdd
2) check how it was partitioned and formatted (fat16 or what?). e.g. if NTFS w98 may have problems.

Good Luck - Keep us posted


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Response Number 12
Name: db1964
Date: May 15, 2006 at 11:07:53 Pacific
Reply:

Found the drive. I put the HD in a different (working) PC and removed the partition, it was formatted with NTFS. Installed in original PC and is now formatting. I thank all of you who helped to get this resolved. I will return the PC to it owner and make a kid very happy. Thanks again.


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