So, I got this PC from my sister's friend... And I thought it was good for a $1000, but today I heard another thing... These are my specs, are these fit for $1000 or have I been robed?

Info from Hardware Manager:

Nvidia GeForce 4 MX 4000
Intel(r) 82801BA Ultra ATA Controller
C-Media AC97 Audio Device
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.40 GHz
SAMSUNG SP0411N
JLMS DVD-ROM LTD-1665
CyberDrv CW088D CD-R/RW
128 MB RAM
Windows XP Professional (2002)
Office 2003 Professional
USB, Monitor 17", keyboard (normal one), mouse(normal as well(wheel)), speakers, floopy drive...

what you think?

Put it this way...you could buy a brand new Dell with similar specs, but with twice as much RAM AND a printer for about $600.

Nobody robbed you...you did it to yourself.

Someone I know got a dell with a 3 GHZ p4, 256x2 ram, radeon 9800 PRO, 5.1 surround sound a 17 inch screen, 52x burner and a 160 GB hard drive for less then $1200. Hopefully your friend didn't know how much the pc was really worth and will give you a refund...but that usually isn't the case.

Asus P4P800
P4 2.4@2.8 Ghz
Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu HSF
ATI Radeon 9800 pro
1 GB OCZ pc 3500 ram
Sound Blaster audigy LS

I haven't robed myself, actually my brother bought the PC, so judging these answers I'll find a way to fix this problem

Lawers?

You can talk to a lawyer all you want. By giving that person the money, you agreed to the transaction at hand. Suck it up and move on. Even if a lawyer were to take it you would lose more money for said lawyer. And small claims court would probably side with the vendor too.

When all else fails beat the $%!* out of it!!!

You've been shafted. To be robbed, someone must take your money without your consent.

Francis...LOL! VERY true!

MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!

Wow, what a scam! That computer is worth about $450 maybe less!

Symbios Y!

I think you guys are jumping the gun here.

A 17 monitor costs around $100 new.
XP Pro, at least a legal copy, costs around $140. The mobo and processor combo will run you at least $150 not to mention any of the other items like Office.

If this person is going to support this machine in house then I would say you did alright. To compare a custom built machine with real live personal support to a propriatry Dell with Indian non support and warranty issues galore is not realistic or fair. Also of note is the three year warranty the Intel provides at no extra charge that no OEM will give you.

You people seem to forget that not everybody is willing or able to complie a list of parts from Internet sources, assemble and delpoy their own machine. Most people are not and just as many need a good deal of "hand holding" throughout it's life.

Just my opinion,

Jimi_l

Sure, if you wanna break it down piece by piece (case w/ PSU $50, mobo $100, CPU $125, etc) it might seem like $1000 was reasonable...maybe even a bargain...but that's not the way to do a comparison. You have to compare it to an assembled unit with similar specs.

I guess if I was to total up the cost of the individual parts to completely build my Chevy I could say it's worth $100K?

XxxFrancisxxxUSA, & herosycho

actually, to be robbed is to have an object taken without your consent "with a weapon".

theft is to have an object taken without your consent.

but on the subject I would say that that wasn't a good deal... if it's a friend then ask for some part of the money back or as if you can give it computer back for a refund.

Shuttle AN35N-Ultra
AMD 2600+ 1gb 2100ddr
Gainward Gforce 5600 Ultra 128ddr
120GB of 7200 HD space
UV Clear Acrylic Blue case
AXIO Aluminum 600watt PSU
Leadtek Winfast Tv2000xp

Lol, sorry had to do this. LOL!

Robbed.

Definition 3.a

To deprive unjustly of something belonging to, desired by, or legally due (someone): 'robbed her of her professional standing'.

SO THERE! Nah nah nah nah nah! :-)

Well, um, not to start an argument or anything, but:

1) Yes, for $1000 you could get a computer with MUCH better hardware...

HOWEVER -

2) YOU WILL NEVER FIND A COMPUTER IN A STORE FOR THAT PRICE WITH XP PRO AND OFFICE 2003 PRO INTALLED!

If those are legal copies, they alone will run nearly $500. So, basically, is the hardware worth the other $500? Yes, probably pretty close. The question to my mind, then, is do you need those pieces of software? XP pro is darn good, so that I'd okay. But are you going to use Office Xp 2003 Professional? If so, by all means keep the system you got, and maybe see if you can find someone (different) to put a little more RAM in, or a new video card if you like to game. If you don't think you need the full Office 2003 Pro, then see if the guy will refund you your money to put toward a better PC, or maybe even try to sell the Office disks (and the license) on Ebay to at least recoup a little of your money.

Okay, now I'm going to duck so the next reply doesn't hit me straight in the head :)

MSI K7N2-Delta
Athlon XP 2500+
2x256MB Kingston HyperX PC-2700
ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256MB
SB Live! 5.1
MSI TV@nywhere Master
WD 160GB 7200rpm HDD
LiteOn 52x CD-RW
LiteOn 16x DVD

But let's not forget here people, this is a USED machine. So I think $450-$500 is right on target.

I mean come on, if you saw this computer on Ebay going for $1000 would you bid on it? I don't think so.

Symbios Y!

Where does it say used?

Where have you seen a computer on E-bay with a 17 inch monitor and full legal copies of XP and Office for $500?

It dosen't and you haven't.

Sure it's a little light on the memory but it was no robbery. Most people are not gamers, most people do not build their own machines. MOST people surf and send E-mails and that's it.

Jimi_l

I found a pretty good one here for $586.17. I know it doesn’t have MS office 2003 but it’s pretty close to his sytem.

Here's the specs:
Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz CPU w/ 1MB cache
Super fast wire sensing gaming modem. 56K V.92 Voice Fax
512 Mb DDR RAM
80 Gb 7200 rpm 9.5 seek 2MB cache.
5.1 surround sound AC 97 sound.
Radeon 9700 128MB VGA, DVI, and S-video out
D-link 54mbs Wireless network card.
8 USB 2.0 Ports
Windows XP (2002 Version) with updates and CD
Norton Internet Security 2004-2005 (Downloaded version/w license
Logitech Keyboard (multimedia) and optical scroll mouse
5 Piece surround sound speaker system with 40 watt Subwoofer
19'' Sony CRT .24 Dot pitch.
Main box has 1-year warranty from time of arrival (parts only)

Symbios Y!

i see... this is getting controversial, and this will make it worse, I bought it almost a year ago, and they installed Office 2003 and fixed some things a month ago... so,??

Wait, I'm confused. You're saying you bought this thing almost a year ago and you are posting about it just now!?

Symbios Y!

yeah, you see i was really needing a computer, my brother bougth this, we all thought this was nice, but my cousin went to my place some days ago, and he got all angry saying that this a shaft, that the guy stole from us, so that woke up my curiosity

Well, the whole "year-ago" thing changes the dynamics. A year ago, this system would have been worth a lot more than it is today. In fact, I used to work at a Circuit City (almost exactly a year ago) and this sort of system probably would have sold for around $700-800 back then, without Office, of course (Office 2003 didn't even come out until October of last year). That also would not have included the monitor, which you quote does. So, all in all, I'd say you did not get ripped off, or at least not very much. Sure, it isn't worth $1000 today, but you didn't buy it today :) Computers depreciate in value very quickly, as new hardware comes out, and what you buy today may well be out-dated tomorrow (anybody out there buy a Radeon 9800 Pro/XT the day before they announced the X800 series?). Besides, even if you did feel they ripped you off it is WAY to late to do anything about it. My previous advice stands: get some more RAM, and if you game a better video card. Other than than, a P4 2.4Ghz with a DVD drive and a CD-Burner isn't bad. Trust me, a year ago I would have LOVED to swap PCs with you - I had a P2 350Mhz with no CD-burner :(

MSI K7N2-Delta
Athlon XP 2500+
2x256MB Kingston HyperX PC-2700
ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256MB
SB Live! 5.1
MSI TV@nywhere Master
WD 160GB 7200rpm HDD
LiteOn 52x CD-RW
LiteOn 16x DVD

I see, it had Office Xp around that time, and Nero 5, and PowerDVD, and other stuff... so I need money for RAM, and i was wondering if I REALLY need a new Video Card for games like SimCity 4 and or Rise of Nations? I'm not a fan of PC Games, what I would really like is more RAM for working with 3ds Max, but anyway, thanx for your help.. I'll find my way back...