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Hardware swapping for... nothing?!

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Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: September 29, 2007 at 20:18:43 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Home
CPU/Ram: 2.4GHz/512MB
Product: HP Pavilion a200n
Comment:

Hello everyone!

Okay, I got this new computer (HP Pavilion a200m) from a friend, and since it had 2.4GHz I decided to replace my current desktop computer (Compaq Presario 6000, 1.4Ghz) with it. Since I had done many upgrades to my current one, I swapped some of said hardware to the new one.

So, the output looks like this:

New Computer:
2.4GHz Intel Celeron
512MB RAM (listed as 504? ?)
64MB video (built-in)80GB + 40GB hard drives

Old Computer:
1.4GHz AMD Athlon XP 1600+
256MB RAM
64MB video (ATI card on PCI slot)
40GB + 15GB hard drives

I did this because I do a lot of video conversion (stupid Sony doesn't want us to watch AVIs on their PS3 and PSP systems... grr) so I needed something faster.

Well, on the old one (before any hw swapping), it took 40 minutes to convert a ~20 minute file. On the new one (AFTER all of the hw swapping), it takes ~1:25 hours. Huh?!

Any ideas of why this might be? Maybe Celeron is supposed to be slower than Athlon?

Thanks in advance!

P.S; another thing worth mentioning: since the one of the IDE cables wasn't long enough, I had to use one from an older machine... Maybe it's because I'm using an old cable?

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food?



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Response Number 1
Name: aegis
Date: September 29, 2007 at 20:28:17 Pacific
Reply:

Did you install the motherboard drivers?


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Response Number 2
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: September 29, 2007 at 20:30:06 Pacific
Reply:

Uh, I used the System Recovery utility on the hard drive partition. This includes these drivers, right?

Thanks!

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 3
Name: aegis
Date: September 29, 2007 at 20:33:08 Pacific
Reply:

I don't know, maybe an HP expert will show up and tell us.

Oops I misunderstood. A windows system recovery does not install any drivers.


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Response Number 4
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 29, 2007 at 20:59:32 Pacific
Reply:

If you used an old cable that is a 40 wire cable the transfer rate is limited to 33MB/sec. Change to a newer 80 wire cable.

FYI, If you use Master/slave settings instead of cable select the location of the drive on the cable is of no importance. You can connect a Master in the middle if necessary.


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Response Number 5
Name: kx5m2g
Date: September 29, 2007 at 21:01:14 Pacific
Reply:

It's not clear which hardware you swapped. I assume that you left the 80GB + 40GB hard drives in the HP, so that they would already have a lot of the drivers loaded, etc. Did you put the 64 MB video card in the HP ?The Athlon is generally a faster processor, though it depends on the precise speeds.


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Response Number 6
Name: jackbomb
Date: September 29, 2007 at 21:14:20 Pacific
Reply:

That's a Northwood Celeron, which has got to be one of the lowest IPC (instructions per clock) processors to roll out of Intel. The 128KB of cache really hurts performance in certain types of applications, and the fact that onboard video depends on the CPU for certain video operations does not help.

I'm not surprised that the Athlon XP (which was an excellent CPU in its day) is faster, despite the lower clock speed. Thanks to its short data pipeline, the Athlon XP handled applications with "branchy" code much more efficiently than the Celeron did with its long, P4-derived data pipeline and tiny L2 cache.

The IDE cable may be playing a role in the slow speed, but I doubt it. Video encoding is much less disk-intensive than many believe it to be.

Perhaps the older IDE cable is slightly damaged, causing XP to run the disk in PIO mode instead of DMA in order to avoid errors? That would definitely slow things down. Check your ATAPI settings in the device manager.

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Response Number 7
Name: cliffpage
Date: September 30, 2007 at 02:28:06 Pacific
Reply:

i have not checked it out but I would guess the athlon xp had a larger cache. Some types of work are helped by larger cache, and some by higher clock speed. Roughly speaking a athlon 1600xp is about the same as a pentium 4 1.6ghz which is about the same as a celeron 2.0ghz. I say 'roughly' because that's based on taking all differnt types of processing into account whereas the difference will be greater in some.


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Response Number 8
Name: XpUser
Date: September 30, 2007 at 06:38:43 Pacific
Reply:

Uh, I used the System Recovery utility on the hard drive partition. This includes these drivers, right?

Wrong. HP system recovery will not work with the new mobo. All OEM System recovery are hardware specified.

i_Xp/VistaUser


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: September 30, 2007 at 07:37:11 Pacific
Reply:

"I had done many upgrades to my current one"

You did? Looking at the specs of your "old computer", it seems all you did was install a PCI video card & a 2nd HDD?

"512MB RAM (listed as 504? ?)"

It appears you're only alloctaing 8MB to the onboard video?


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Response Number 10
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 30, 2007 at 07:47:06 Pacific
Reply:

If system recovery worked at all I am surprised. Could have something to do with HP and Compaq being under the same roof.

You need to install the drivers for the new hardware.

Might also need to remove some listings that no longer exist.


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Response Number 11
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: October 3, 2007 at 04:49:50 Pacific
Reply:

No no no... You don't get it, I used the HP recovery on the HP, not the Compaq.

And the upgrades were:
* More memory (256>512 megs)
* New hard drive
* New hard drive again
* Two new CD/DVD drive
* New video card

Anyway, from what you guys said, I bet I shouldn't have done any swapping and just use the Compaq for video conversion and the other for something like Linux because the processor, even if it's 2.4GHz, is still slower for that purpose.

Thanks y'all!

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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