Hardrive Failure

Compact presario / S4300nx
July 27, 2009 at 18:06:37
Specs: Windows XP
My ATA-100 samsung harddrive has failed. I tested it with several utilities including samsungs. Even in a dos boot C drive is not recognized. My HP motherboard P4SD-LA spec says it will support a SATA-150 disk drive. Am I correct to assume replaceing ATA with SATA will improve performance? Does the SATA-150 indicate the maximum GB the motherboard or bios will support?

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July 27, 2009 at 19:00:55
The SATA 150 designation indicates the burst speed of a SATA I drive. SATA I drives are no longer made. The current models are SATA II/ 300MBPS.

You should be able to use MOST SATA II drives on your SATA I controllers. A few of the SATA II performance drives are designated as SATA II ONLY. Which means they will not work on your board.

You MAY need to set a jumper on the SATA II drive to force SATA I speeds.

As far as performance is concerned you won't notice any real world difference in the speeds. What may help is most new hard drives have a larger cache than older IDE drives had. That does increase overall performance.

You need to be concerned about the capacity limitations of your motherboard. If the BIOS is not 48 bit LBA compliant you won't be able to use a hard drive larger than 127GB.

What capacity is your present drive?

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July 28, 2009 at 05:36:58
My current drive is 120GB. There is a bios update for my motherboard that I have not installed. I plan to update it after installing the new drive. I have three empty PCI slots. Performance wise is there any advantage to install a SATA II controller. My front side bus is 800 mhz? I am going to open the box and I wanted to eliminate as many choke points as possible. I have to do the drive, so the only question is how to do it and how far to go. A SATA II drive is only $15 more that a replacement ATA-100 that was OEM. I have PC2700 memory that I could push upto PC3200 (400MHZ) the max my motherboard will support. I could also bump my CPU from 2.4 to 3.2 GHZ. Note sure how all of this fits together and if speeding up the drive will only be held back by the bus speed, CPU speed or memory speed. Your thoughts would be welcome.

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July 28, 2009 at 08:41:20
You won't notice any performance increase with SATA II using a controller card. Don't worry about that.

If you can update the BIOS to make it 48 bit LBA compliant I recommend you do that BEFORE installing the hard drive. Otherwise you will have to redo the partitioning after the upgrade.

If you don't have a floppy drive I suggest you get one. You will need to provide SATA drivers when installing WinXP to the SATA drive anyway. That can only be done in two ways.

First is by floppy, the second is by slipstreaming the drivers into your WinXP CD. If your WinXP CD has no service packs included you will have a problem with 48 bit LBA compliance with Windows too.

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August 4, 2009 at 05:17:46
How would I tell if my Bios is 48 bit compliant? I installed the bios upgrade listed by Compaq for my motherboard. I have both SATA and IDE connectors for the hard drive. Is there a way to tell if it is taking advantage of the SATA extra speed?

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August 4, 2009 at 06:41:05
If the hard drives are properly identified by BOTH the model and the FULL capacity of over 127GB then the BIOS IS 48 bit LBA compliant.

SATA speed can be tested by Windows. Go to Device Manager> expand IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Right click on one of the SATA listings and choose properties> port 0 or 1> Speed test. Repeat for all drives. Post back with the results.

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August 4, 2009 at 09:37:13
Once I get to IDE/ATA/ATAPI Controller through device manager. I have six devices listed. 2 each of the following:

Intel 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
Primary IDE Channel
Secondary IDE Channel

These is no SATA devices listed.

My bios using F1 now lists six channel as opposed to channed type before I did the bios upgrade.


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August 4, 2009 at 15:21:35
You must be running your SATA drive in an IDE compatibility mode. So it is listed as running on an IDE channel. Expand those and see what is there.

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