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Name: Hise (by hythemr)
Date: September 30, 2007 at 16:41:03 Pacific
OS: xp pro sp2
CPU/Ram: pentium D 3.2, 4 gig dual
Product: custom
Comment:

I'm switching (not adding) my 250gig ide hard drive for a 3.0 sata 320 gig, I plan on formatting the 250 and putting it in another unit. Anyway i can just clone the drive on the new harddrive?



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Response Number 1
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 30, 2007 at 16:49:07 Pacific
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You should be able to do that. Use the manufacturer's utility for that. Every drive maker has one.


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Response Number 2
Name: aegis
Date: September 30, 2007 at 18:17:32 Pacific
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Note that when you do the copy, you might get an option to keep the partition size the same (250gb), or increase it to fill the 320gbs drive.


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Response Number 3
Name: Hise (by hythemr)
Date: September 30, 2007 at 18:19:53 Pacific
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ok, ill watch out for that, its a seagate i did find the utility for that, ill be swapping them tomorrow so ill let you guys know how it works, thanks !


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Response Number 4
Name: worldlibrary
Date: September 30, 2007 at 19:56:19 Pacific
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Just a thought. After you get it up and running
to your satisfaction....take a minute and make a new restore point.

Could just me ,but I have never had an old restore point work if the new hard dive was cloned using a disk utility that came with the new hard drive.

W.L.



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Response Number 5
Name: Richard59
Date: October 1, 2007 at 01:13:25 Pacific
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I think you will have problems cloning from an IDE drive to SATA. Your operating system and it's bootfiles will not contain the necessary SATA drivers and the cloned drive will fail to boot. Do not format your current drive unless/until you have got the SATA booting properly.

I suspect you will have to do a clean instal including loading SATA drivers during setup, and then reinstal all your programs etc before transferring your files etc from the IDE drive. Hope for your sake I'm wrong. Please post back with your results.

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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 1, 2007 at 04:17:23 Pacific
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I believe that the drive will function in the IDE mode at IDE speeds without the SATA drivers being installed. I see no reason why the SATA drivers can't be installed NOW. SATA controllers are just another piece of hardware. You can have other hardware installed and not functioning at the moment for whatever reason.


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Response Number 7
Name: Richard59
Date: October 1, 2007 at 15:07:27 Pacific
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If it were any other hardware component but the bootdrive I would agree without reservation. But the cloned bootfiles, particularly the BOOT.INI file may be pointing at a physical location that is no longer present.
When doing a clean instal of XP to a system that has SATA drive, it is necessary to instal the "third party" SATA driver at the very beginning of the setup process, otherwise XP setup cannot even find the drive. There may also be a need to check the BIOS boot order to ensure booting from the SATA drive is enabled. My thought is that with BIOS pointing to the SATA drive as boot device, the bootfiles will still be unable to function due to the absence of the necessary driver. There may be an option in BIOS to run the SATA drive in IDE mode. That may be the way around the driver issue.
My advice regarding preserving the contents of the original drive until the cloned system is working still stands. I am only speculating here and not speaking from a position of certitude. Would appreciate the OP reporting back with their results.

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Response Number 8
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 1, 2007 at 15:22:41 Pacific
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Well, I can't say definatively either. It is always best to re-install fresh.


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Response Number 9
Name: Hise (by hythemr)
Date: October 1, 2007 at 17:17:04 Pacific
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ive got it in now, its being formatted then ill use the seagate utility. I hope it goes through nice and easy, ill keep you guys updated thanks for the info


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Response Number 10
Name: Hise (by hythemr)
Date: October 2, 2007 at 06:31:02 Pacific
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After using windows xp Disk management utility setting the drive to primary and formatting it to ntfs. The seagate utility failed to recognize my seagate hd as a seagate so i used western digitals utility, cloned the drive and in the morning it was done. Pulled the old drive out and everything worked like normal, except the boot record had two windows xp's even after the fixmbr command in the recovery console. I had to search for a regular boot.ini and copied it over mine and set a 0 second timeout. All is perfect now. Thanks guys hope this helps somebody else out too.


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