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Name: allen (by allenehuang)
Date: June 26, 2006 at 20:27:06 Pacific
OS: win2k
CPU/Ram: 2500+
Product: 1gb
Comment:

I'm putting together an older system, and everytime I power up with any hard drive connected, the PC freezes. I've tried booting without a hard drive, and everything seems to be just fine. Having a working hard drive on the computer would be nice, because, at the moment, all I can do is run through options in bios.

Note: a fan on the motherboard isn't working.

The mother board is a abit kv7a.

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Response Number 1
Name: Octopus
Date: June 26, 2006 at 20:45:50 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah one needs a HDD. I would try a new (and tested) HDD, PSU and mobo. How old is your system/parts?
HDD could be simply be bad.
PSU could be failing causing the system to crash when you add another device. Trying run just the bare min.
Mobo could be old and going bad also.
Try replacing iteams in order listed.
Hope this helps.


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Response Number 2
Name: ham30
Date: June 26, 2006 at 20:51:22 Pacific
Reply:

You must install an operating system on the hard drive to use it. I get the impression that you haven't done it yet. Boot from the Win2K CD and do the install.

Do yourself a favor BACKUP!


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Response Number 3
Name: allen (by allenehuang)
Date: June 26, 2006 at 21:02:27 Pacific
Reply:

ham30,
the problem is that it won't boot the hard drive. i can't install if i can't even get to the hard drive.

2.8c 800mhz fsb
2 gb 512x4 geil dual channel
asus p4p800 se
60 gb ibm 7200 rpm
80 gb maxtor 7200
300 gb seagate 7200
thermaltake va3000 tsunami
evga geforce 6800gs 256mb


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Response Number 4
Name: allen (by allenehuang)
Date: June 26, 2006 at 21:04:22 Pacific
Reply:

octopus,
i've tried 3 different hard drives. two ide, one sata. all three failed the test, but work perfectly elsewhere.

i really doubt the power supply as it is a 400w, and the parts are a good 3-4 years old.

but yes, i do suspect the motherboard. i just wanted some other ideas before i ran out and bought anothe rone.

thanks.

2.8c 800mhz fsb
2 gb 512x4 geil dual channel
asus p4p800 se
60 gb ibm 7200 rpm
80 gb maxtor 7200
300 gb seagate 7200
thermaltake va3000 tsunami
evga geforce 6800gs 256mb


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Response Number 5
Name: jboy
Date: June 26, 2006 at 21:23:01 Pacific
Reply:

Isn't this your post too?

Same machine & issue?

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Response Number 6
Name: allen (by allenehuang)
Date: June 26, 2006 at 21:29:14 Pacific
Reply:

jboy,
yes, that is my machine as well. i seperated the posts because it's different issue on a different machine.

2.8c 800mhz fsb
2 gb 512x4 geil dual channel
asus p4p800 se
60 gb ibm 7200 rpm
80 gb maxtor 7200
300 gb seagate 7200
thermaltake va3000 tsunami
evga geforce 6800gs 256mb


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Response Number 7
Name: jboy
Date: June 26, 2006 at 21:42:51 Pacific
Reply:

Ok - just trying to understand the situation a bit better - they seem to be very similar issues.

There's only so much you can do before giving up - if a variety of hard drives & cables fail to work, and you are positive all is fine in the BIOS, then it likely is a bad controller or other motherboard issue

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Response Number 8
Name: ham30
Date: June 26, 2006 at 21:59:41 Pacific
Reply:

"the problem is that it won't boot the hard drive. i can't install if i can't even get to the hard drive."

You need to boot from the CD and install the OS on the hard drive before it will boot from the hard drive. Have you tried booting from the Win2K installation CD?

Do yourself a favor BACKUP!


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Response Number 9
Name: allen (by allenehuang)
Date: June 26, 2006 at 22:01:55 Pacific
Reply:

ham30,

my situation is this exactly: i've set bios to boot from the cd rom first, hard drive second, and have disabled the third boot.

here's what happens: i get to bios and it starts counting the memory and then it tries to recognize the ide drives, sometimes it lags, sometimes it goes through. either way, it'll hang within 10 seconds.

2.8c 800mhz fsb
2 gb 512x4 geil dual channel
asus p4p800 se
60 gb ibm 7200 rpm
80 gb maxtor 7200
300 gb seagate 7200
thermaltake va3000 tsunami
evga geforce 6800gs 256mb


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Response Number 10
Name: jessejames
Date: June 27, 2006 at 00:04:28 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.computing.net/cgi-bin/wwwboard.pl?hardware


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Response Number 11
Name: jessejames
Date: June 27, 2006 at 00:05:13 Pacific
Reply:

ooopppsss http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/43918.html


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Response Number 12
Name: ham30
Date: June 27, 2006 at 09:10:15 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry Allen, I didn't do a good job of reading your initial post. I understand the problem now.

Disconnect any other drives.
Try connecting the hard drive to the second IDE connector.
Check the Master/Slave plugging instructions very carefully. Some drives have different plugging for when a drive is alone on a cable.
Try a different ribbon cable and make sure it's connected the right way at both ends.
Try a different power cable.
If all that doesn't change things I would agree with the above suggestions, that it could be the power supply.


Do yourself a favor BACKUP!


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Response Number 13
Name: Jaimee
Date: August 26, 2006 at 21:25:00 Pacific
Reply:

You have to go to the Motherboard's Bios and change the booting order on the list of Hard Drives, if there are more than one, to that of the HDD making it the first. You may also want to change the Booting priority of your Optical Drives such as your DVD, DVDRW, CDRW, CDROM to that of your installed optical drive because as you may already know that you will need this for the OS CD... Cheers. Rollie


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