Hard Drive format RAW

July 16, 2007 at 11:53:57
Specs: Windows XP SP2, 3800+ AMD // 1GB Corsair

Installed the hard drive about 4 months ago. Everything has been working fine since. Its a secondary hard drive. Its a Seagate 160GB and it was full the last time i saw it working.

I turned on my pc today and the BIOS screen seem to stick on "detecting hard drives" for about 15 seconds. Eventually it loaded up but as soon as it reached the windows login screen the computer reset its self. After this reset the computer reached the login screen this time round.

After logging on and checking "My Computer", i realised my hard drive icon was gone from my computer. However, when i loaded my control panel and checked system, it was there. When i pressed 'search for updates' on top of the hard drive icon, a "new hard drive found" icon appeared on the start bar. I then checked my computer and a "Local Disk:F" had now appeared, which contained 0 space and the file system displayed as RAW.

Anyone know how to get it back working? I'm currently running called ZAR (which is supposed to recover RAW files) but its only on 3% which has taken about 50 minutes to reach that point!!

Small note: This drive is not partitioned and is FAT32


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#1
July 16, 2007 at 13:32:52

The drive is partitoned as ONE partition or else you couldn't format it. Was the drive partitioned and formatted prior to installing into this computer? What is the total drive size that is being reported by disk managment? If formatted while in this computer what utility did you use to format it?

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#2
July 16, 2007 at 13:40:03

"160GB and it was full the last time i saw it working."

What do you mean by full? You should never fill a harddrive above 85% of it's formatted capacity. recovery of data from a drive that big can take a long time. Did you first run chkdisk to see if it could repair whatever went wrong ?

I used to have a signature but it disappeared and I just couldn't be bothered writing another so please feel free to ingore this.


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#3
July 16, 2007 at 13:52:40

Richard
I asked the questions I did because WinXP won't allow you to format a partition larger than 32GB using FAT32. So, I'm wondering what the history of the drive is.

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#4
July 16, 2007 at 14:23:47

I didnt run chkdsk no.

"Was the drive partitioned and formatted prior to installing into this computer?"

It was formatted but i dont remember partitioning it.

Ahhh for some reason the drive has appeared with everything on it. However, i think this may have happened in the past. I assume (90%) this problem will happen again when i shut down and start it up in the next few days.

Theres 47GB unallocated space on the 'drive that goes missing'. Is there any way to recover this 47gb of unallocated space without formatting my whole disk drive? I could may be move half the content onto other drives but i don think i have enough for the whole content.

Do you think only having 300MB of free space is causing the drive to go missing then?
Its a secondary drive. I assume that wouldn't be a problem would it?

As for what utility i used to format the drive with i think it was with windows xp. Either through DOS (XP CD) or in windows itself. Its hard to remember considering it was a small task and it was around 4-5 months ago


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#5
July 16, 2007 at 14:29:18

Heres a picture of my setup (3 hardrives, 160gb, 250gb, 320gb)

http://i18.tinypic.com/4p0ei4m.png

At 2nd glance i may well be to move the contents of my 160gb to the rest of my HD's

I'm not sure why it didn't allocate the 47GB at the time. Bit of a waste of space that i actually need now

Thanks for your replies so for. Its 11pm here so i will have to check back tomorrow


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#6
July 16, 2007 at 14:30:53

What I suspect is that you formatted that drive elsewhere. As I mentioned to the response to richard59 WinXP won't allow you to format a partition larger than 32GB using FAT32. This is by design. Was this Harddrive EVER in a different computer or was it in your computer prior to you having SP1 or 2 installed?
You didn't answer what total space is reported in disk management.

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#7
July 16, 2007 at 18:26:50

WinXP won't allow you to format a partition larger than 32GB using FAT32

That's true ... unless you know how to "jury-rig" it with Win 98SE- or Win ME-version format tool. This version format tool support drives up to a standard theoretical size of 2 terabytes (TB).

i_Xp/VistaUser


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#8
July 16, 2007 at 20:06:14

XPUser

I am aware of how to get around that limit. I suspect the OP may have connected this drive in a non 48bit LBA compliant computer. Partitioned and formatted it and then transferred it to the WinXP computer. That situation would eventually result in data corruption.


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#9
July 17, 2007 at 04:32:16

The management tool says its 101 GB space like in the picture i posted? Should be 148GB but i forgot to allocate the other bit.

What should i do then? Should i copy all the contents over to my 2 HDs and format the drive using a different software tool? I want to have a 148GB working hard drive really that doesn't pop up every now and then when i start my pc up.

"Was this Harddrive EVER in a different computer or was it in your computer prior to you having SP1 or 2 installed? "

I had it installed with SP2 as a secondary storage drive with my old motherboard which i scrapped due to an upgrade.

Formatting isnt an issue as i can back up what i see right now. Should i boot up windows with XP CD and convert to NTFS then format the drive?


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#10
July 17, 2007 at 04:58:03

"Do you think only having 300MB of free space is causing the drive to go missing then?"
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It's quite possible, but it depends on how you have XP set.

How big a reserve do you have set up for "recycle bin"? This is usually set as a percentage of the drive and 10% is not an unusual number.... 10% of 160 gig is 16gig.

Do you have "paging file" set for this drive... that's more space xp will reserve.

Do you have "system restore" on? A folder called "System Volume Information" is placed on each partition which will contain (among other things) the system restore files for that partition.

You can see how XP's reserve space adds up. This can cause serious problems when you have XP set with all of these reserve spaces..... and then connect a full drive to it.

NEVER FILL A DRIVE!!


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#11
July 17, 2007 at 05:31:45

How big a reserve do you have set up for "recycle bin"? This is usually set as a percentage of the drive and 10% is not an unusual number.... 10% of 160 gig is 16gig.

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I dont. Its set to default i think

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Do you have "paging file" set for this drive... that's more space xp will reserve.

Nope.
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Do you have "system restore" on? A folder called "System Volume Information" is placed on each partition which will contain (among other things) the system restore files for that partition.

Nope.
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I think i'm gonna buy a 500GB drive. They are only around 65 pounds now. Some guidance on formatting the 160GB drive would be great if anyone could help.


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#12
July 18, 2007 at 07:29:07

Nobody is really even listening to what you are saying. To EVERYONE, the drive was fine. He did not change anything!!!

It seems like the drive may have gone bad or maybe someone hacked your system. I'm actually trying to find a fix or something that can read the RAW format for myself. I have a hard drive saying RAW also. If I find an answer I will let you know.


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#13
July 18, 2007 at 07:58:25

KDondrea

Don't get hyper. I can't speak for others posting in this thread but I am listening. What I am not hearing are the answers to questions I have asked.
I still suspect this is a 48bit LBA issue. For your info look at this site.
http://www.48bitlba.com/index.htm


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#14
August 9, 2007 at 19:32:15

I can't format my drive anyway i've tried so I tried at the C prompt it says exactly
c:\>format d:
The type of file system is raw
Please use the /FS switch to specify the file system you wish to use on this volume

Does anyone know how to do this and do you know if it will work thanks for any help
jamiejpost@hotmail.com


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