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Name: dbadalov
Date: March 29, 2004 at 10:30:02 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: Celeron 1400/128MB
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After performing Defragmentation and rebooting, the machine would not recognize the existing hard drive. An error saying "Disk read failure" appears right after BIOS checks. We have tried booting from a bootable CD in an effort to run a scandisk on the HD, but the drive is still not seen. It's as if the drive doesn't exist. We also have tried connecting the drive to another computer, running WIN 2K. The BIOS on that computer can detect the drive, WIN 2K can see the drive in the "Windows Explorer" window, but when trying to access the drive, it gives access errors and does not show the data on the drive. Please help! Thank you.



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Name: Sandor
Date: March 29, 2004 at 10:38:05 Pacific
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It sounds like the HD is shot, but if it's a brand name, some manufacturers have speific diagnostic programs for their drives which give conclusive informaion. It happened to me on a Western Digital drive the bad news it told me was the drive was bad, the good news was it was still under warrantee. They sent me new one for free after using it for over 2.5 years.


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Response Number 2
Name: dbadalov
Date: March 29, 2004 at 10:45:24 Pacific
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Mine is a Western Digital as well - 1.5 yrs old. So there is no way to recover the files? I heard of some companies doing recovery for a fee.


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Response Number 3
Name: angrymen2001
Date: March 29, 2004 at 10:50:43 Pacific
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I've heard instances where you put your HD in the freezer. After it gets good and icy, put it in computer and you can recover data (doesn't always work).

When all else fails, beat the %*#$! out of it!!!


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Response Number 4
Name: Bobthearch
Date: March 29, 2004 at 10:59:20 Pacific
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Yes, there are file recovery services, but it's rather expensive. Probably not worth it for home users.

It does sound like the hard drive is shot, as everyone else figures too.

I don't know about Western Digital, but Seagate has a fantastic disk diagnostic utility program. I bet WD does too.

Blank CDs - fifty cents
Using them to back up data - Priceless

Sorry for your loss,
Bob


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Response Number 5
Name: aren
Date: March 29, 2004 at 11:01:03 Pacific
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No dont do that freezer thing.
It is more damaging to a HDD than anything
If it is frozen or even cold and you run it condesation(or small water particles) can build up in the drive making it more useless than before. Also the Western Digital may not continue the warranty if that was the case.


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Response Number 6
Name: Bobthearch
Date: March 29, 2004 at 11:08:55 Pacific
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Sometimes the freezer method ~does~ work. If the hard drive is 'broken' there's no harm in making it 'more broken' unless they're going to send it off for data recovery.

They already said it's no longer under warranty...


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Response Number 7
Name: angrymen2001
Date: March 29, 2004 at 11:11:25 Pacific
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WD does have a diagnostic utility


When all else fails, beat the %*#$! out of it!!!


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Response Number 8
Name: dbadalov
Date: March 29, 2004 at 11:37:01 Pacific
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Thank you all for your feedback! I guess we'll try to search for less expensive recovery services - the files are of very high sentimental value. If anybody knows someone in the Chicagoland area, please advise!


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Response Number 9
Name: michael2
Date: March 30, 2004 at 10:45:25 Pacific
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'Vogon International' here in England will test a hard drive to see if the data can be extracted for around £500. If the job can be done, it costs an extra £700-£1,500.
That means the best possible scenario would cost over £1,000 ($1,500) and at the most expensive..... over £2,000 ($3,000).

If you defragged and some of the Windows OS files were copied to a damaged area of the hard drive, you would get problems starting Windows but I expect it would still get seen by BIOS.

I would suggest slaving the drive to the Win 2000 PC and use a data recovery program on the Win 2000 PC that by-passes Windows, and can search the slaved drive. It will be able to search the slaved hard drive and copy the files to the Win 2000 HD (for burning to a CD-R later).
I managed to do this myself for a friend, but Windows was able to see the slaved drive and copy & paste the files without the need for recovery software.


There are many programs that can search the HD for file files that have been deleted and/or corrupt and this is maybe what you need.

The following are some that I can think of and some are free. Go for the free ones first or you could spend a fortune on several programs for none of them to work.
If you are looking for certain file types (.jpg for example) your search may not take forever.

PC Inspector (free)
Disk Investigator (free)
Fast File Recovery (free)
Fast File Undelete (free)
Fast File Extract (free)

And some I think are not free....
OnTrack
Get Data Back (NTFS)
Get Data Back (FAT32)
Recover My Files

I think Win XP and 2000 are NTFS, where as the PC I used to recover the files was Win ME and the failed HD was Win 98 (both FAT 32).

Please post back with your results, for myself and others to learn from.


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