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Hard drive capacity seems wrong

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Name: Alex
Date: November 1, 2003 at 17:26:29 Pacific
OS: Win98
CPU/Ram: PII300, 256 Ram
Comment:

On my ThinkPad 770X the hard drive is supposed to be 8.1G (it says that on it, when I pull it out and in spec.), but the Windows only see 5.1G. What might be the problem? Thank you!



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Response Number 1
Name: henry
Date: November 1, 2003 at 18:11:08 Pacific
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A mistake might have been made partitioning. Go to start/run and type fdisk /status to see the partitioning.


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Response Number 2
Name: OtheHill
Date: November 1, 2003 at 19:08:02 Pacific
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Major vendors use a hidden partition to store the files for a restore and troubleshoot. Also when it suits them, drive manufacturers fudge the drive size. That issue has been covered here before but to sum it up 1Kb = 1024 drive manufacturers sometimes divide by 1000, using the metric system. comes out in their favor. Formatting also takes up space.


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Response Number 3
Name: ted
Date: November 1, 2003 at 19:12:06 Pacific
Reply:

Othehill is correct. But there must be some other reason that 3gb of a 8.1gb disk is lost.


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Response Number 4
Name: OtheHill
Date: November 1, 2003 at 19:36:31 Pacific
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I just added up the total capacity of the 4 partitions of my 60GB maxtor drive. It equally 57.08GB. The last time I found a hidden partition on a HP computer, the hidden drive was over 900MB and the size showing in windows 95 was 2GB. The guy bought a computer advertised as having a 2GB. HD. So I think that it is possible to lose that much. The difference in the stated size of my drive and the actual size after partitioning and formatting is 6% less. That alone would account for about .5GB on that 8GB drive. The rest could be a hidden drive. One other possiblity is that Alex is mistakenly seeing the remaining space on the drive and thinking it's the total size. Alex, run fdisk and use the option to see other drives and see whats there. Be careful not to change anything.


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Response Number 5
Name: anonproxy
Date: November 1, 2003 at 21:19:00 Pacific
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This is a common thing among IBM laptops (can be seen with Compaqs and some HP's). There are a few reasons you have hidden partitions. The most common configuration is as a recovery program and Windows installation files compressed (some utilities too). IBM Thinkpads have been known to be configured this way (and sometimes do not even ship with the recovery CD). Usually these partitions are about 1-2GB but no more. Actually, if you don't have a CD-ROM drive, this can be helpful. Often times in the Thinkpad the BIOS restricts the overwriting of the hidden partition.

Paritioning and formating will not take up over 10% of your drive. I am not aware of any filesystems that require this loss (even with the journal).



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Response Number 6
Name: Alex
Date: November 3, 2003 at 09:40:47 Pacific
Reply:

Ok, fdisk/status shows this:

Line 1 - Disk-1, Drv-(nothing), Mbytes-4880, Free-(nothing), Usage-100%

Line 2 - Disk-(nothing), Drv-C:, Mbytes-4880, Free-(nothing), Usage-(nothing)

What gives? Thanks, all!


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Response Number 7
Name: anonproxy
Date: November 3, 2003 at 11:52:19 Pacific
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Those results make no sense. I suggest you reinstall the OS and do a complete format if you want that extra space.


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Response Number 8
Name: Herc
Date: November 3, 2003 at 12:40:15 Pacific
Reply:

Will DOS prompt C:/format do it or do I need to re-partition? Then, what's the best way to do so? Thanks!



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Response Number 9
Name: anonproxy
Date: November 3, 2003 at 14:37:33 Pacific
Reply:

Backup all the data you want to keep. You are going to completely repartition the system and do a complete installation.

Get a book disk for Windows 98 DOS (find one online here or use the one that came with your computer). Take the disk, put it in the drive, and restart your computer. Put a CD-ROM in the drive, and try to open the CD by typing "D:" and then "dir /w". If your CD-ROM drive letter is something else (maybe M: or H:) use that instead of D. Just make sure you can read from the CD-ROM drive.

Once you know you can get to your CD-ROM drive from your bootdisk, reboot the computer with the bootdisk in the drive. Type "format c:". When that is done, go to your CD-ROM drive with your Windows disk in the drive, and type "D:/setup.exe". This should install Windows.


A quick look on Google will tell you how to do anything else.


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Response Number 10
Name: Alex
Date: November 3, 2003 at 17:56:03 Pacific
Reply:

I did just that already. Formatted C:, then booted to CD and installed Win98. After formatting C: it still does not show up as a 8.1Gb, only as 5.1Gb... So, if I do this again, won't I get the same results... Something else seems wrond... Ahhh..! :)


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Response Number 11
Name: anonproxy
Date: November 3, 2003 at 19:41:27 Pacific
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"Something else seems wron[g]"

Nope, that the space you have to use. Sorry.


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Response Number 12
Name: Mars
Date: November 23, 2003 at 16:57:13 Pacific
Reply:

I have a similar problem. I'll start from the top..

I'm running Win98 on a PII. My HD is supposedly 4.1 gigs. At one point I had a gig free. But everytime I tried to d/l something or add anything more, I would get "Your Hard Disk is Full". I couldn't figure out what was wrong, so I ran Scandisk. After Scandisk fixed some errors, it then read that it WAS actually full, with only a couple mbs free.

..But I could swear that I didn't have that much space taken up to begin with. Naturally I erased some stuff to free up space.

Currently When I go into My Computer and click on "c:\" It says I am using 3.39 Gs, and have 632 mb free. But when I go into MSDos Prompt and type "dir /s" from c:\, I get a total of 2,145,678,161 bytes with 632 mb free. That only adds up to about 3 gigs?

Where is my other gig? I used "fdisk /status" and got these results:

Disk Drv Mbytes Free Usage
1 4118 100%
C: 4118

That means I have 4 right? If so, what is taking up the extra gig? I can't find it.

This is really bugging me.. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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Response Number 13
Name: Mars
Date: November 23, 2003 at 16:59:59 Pacific
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Sorry, I guess the spaces don't work. Lemme try it this way.

Fdisk /status Results
Disk..Drv..Mbytes..Free..Usage
..1.........4118..........100%
.......C:...4188..............



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