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Name: jinntonic
Date: April 3, 2004 at 12:56:38 Pacific
Subject: Hard disk wont spin with IDE cable
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: Athlonxp2000/512ddr
Comment:

fans start, even Powersupply. but the HDD doesn't spin at all. I tried it without the IDE cable and i can hear it spin but when i plug the IDE back in it doesnt spin and my moniter just shows a blank screen. Im sure my CPU, and video card are fine because it gets warm. That hard disk is only a few months old and I had this problem before. I just dont want to send for another new one if i dont need it. Help please!


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Response Number 1
Name: ceri.sheeran
Date: April 3, 2004 at 13:08:57 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Hi,

The hard disk needs two cables.

The flat IDE ribbon cable ( signal / data )and a power connector. Normally four ports, sized about 22mm * 6mm

This will normally only go in one way, due to an angled corner.

Alternatively there may be a minature power connector, which slides on only one way.

In both cases the red cable is closest to the ribbon.

hth

Ceri


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Response Number 2
Name: angrymen2001
Date: April 3, 2004 at 13:21:58 Pacific
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What does that have to do with his post?
jinntonic, try a different cable. SOunds like you may have a possible short somewhere.


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Response Number 3
Name: NAN
Date: April 3, 2004 at 14:45:49 Pacific
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Angrymen, it does have to do with the post.
He was suggesting checking the cable if they were plugged into right position since some IDE cable can be pluged in two ways (has no pumper). However, he didn't say it straighly out so it can be comfusing. If both power cable and IDE cable are at thier right place, then the red cable on the power cable and the red side of the IDE cable should be side by side with each other.

If your cable have two ..um.."heads", then try switching to other see if they work. otherwise, try a different IDE slot on motherboard.


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Response Number 4
Name: papa2
Date: April 3, 2004 at 15:19:49 Pacific
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Yes, it was a good post by ceri sheeran.
A couple of other things. If the flat cable is inserted upside down, it can kill the system and cause a blank screen. Also if the power cable is left out, like ceri suggested, it can kill the system.


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Response Number 5
Name: papa2
Date: April 3, 2004 at 15:21:22 Pacific
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It could also be a defective hard drive.


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Response Number 6
Name: angrymen2001
Date: April 3, 2004 at 15:55:05 Pacific
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Sorry, I guess I either misunderstood ceri or jinntonic. After re-reading I owe ceri an apology and hope an acceptance of it.
You guys are right, I just jumped to an all to hasty conclusion.

When all else fails, beat the %*#$! out of it!!!


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Response Number 7
Name: jinntonic
Date: April 3, 2004 at 16:30:26 Pacific
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Uhh, i use round IDE cables and i tried both of them. Once i boot up the system, i still get a blank screen and when i pull it out i can hear the disk spin. Possibly a hard drive defect ='( but it still spins! and it was only 5 months old. Not a cable problem!


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Response Number 8
Name: jinntonic
Date: April 3, 2004 at 20:26:58 Pacific
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hello? anybody there?


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Response Number 9
Name: Goldenknob
Date: April 3, 2004 at 20:39:34 Pacific
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take the hard drive out and make sure that you didn't bend a pin over... where your round plug goes in.. if not then just make sure that you plug in the right direction..

other than that... hmmm...

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Response Number 10
Name: anenefan
Date: April 3, 2004 at 23:54:44 Pacific
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Hi

Hmmmm things to try/test::

Another going power supply unit.

Or try another hard drive or two to load the system down and see if the machine will boot.

ary: you must have struck a very poorly designed computer. I would think that most technical designers/engineers would have ensured that "no such killing" of motherboards would occur due to a bad power connection on the hard drive.


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Response Number 11
Name: muqsitzam
Date: April 4, 2004 at 05:24:07 Pacific
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hey all,
i just want to suggest something,plz try and check ur jumper settings coz if they conflict ,it might not switch on the pc,or try another hard disk to see if it will work.
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Response Number 12
Name: jinntonic
Date: April 4, 2004 at 13:20:58 Pacific
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The power supply works. And its not new. I built it over a year ago and it works fine, at least for a few months at a time. Its impossible to plug in the power connectors in the wrong way because of the angle notch on the top.
o well Ill ask the manufactuer then. -_-

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Response Number 13
Name: anenefan
Date: April 4, 2004 at 18:07:51 Pacific
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Hi

Can I read that as, you tested with a different PSU or loaded up that PSU then. A year old power supply means nothing if that PSU is playing up. It sounds like a hard drive problem, but it pays to test, just to be sure.


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