gigabyte onboard lan

P4vxasd / Sl5wh
January 30, 2009 at 04:48:26
Specs: Windows XP, 1.9ghz/512 sdram
hi everyone

i've setup a system using a GA-8IPE1000-G (Rev 3.x) gigabyte mobo. after xp install, i noticed there's no LAN in network connections, hence i have no internet access. it has an onboard lan, i have my cable plugged into it. the yellow LED is steady ON, what can that mean ? also, the other end of the cable goes into one of my router's outputs, output #4, and the router #4 LED is OFF ! what does this mean ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#1
January 30, 2009 at 05:02:35
You have to install the LAN drivers. And if you didn't install that, you probably didn't install the other drivers (audio & chipset):

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/...


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#2
January 30, 2009 at 12:09:39
jam! buddy i'm almost melting here from trying this thing;

bro look at this post:
http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/wind...

them people had the same problem I now have on this gigabyte mobo. and they solved it like a year after the problem came up if you look at the post dates.

i don't wanna sit here for a whole year:)

this is what the problem seems to be: it seems that on this mobo's chipset there is a problem with the pci.sys of sp2 recognizing pci hardware. and the gigabit ethernet controller from marvel that's on that mobo, is a pci device (right?)

i tried everything i even installed another pci lan card in the pci slots, not one, THREE. first two were rtl8139D and they were not even seen as new devices by windows nor were they vizible during post... the third is a weird one, ADMtek an983, i see it during post on IRQ11, and winxp sees it and installs it right away but it's limited connectivity no matter what I do. this connection has limited or no connectivity.

so the conclusion i'm drawing, them people were right, but what can I do now? I don't have winxp sp1. and the problem is sp2's pci.sys if they're right about that.

help me dude.

ps would it help to install the drivers for this pci lancard the weird one?(ADMtek an983). I mean since xp installed it, is there a point in finding propietary drivers for it ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#3
January 30, 2009 at 12:30:09
Here is the link to download the drivers for that board. Burn to CDR and install them that way.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/...


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#4
January 30, 2009 at 12:42:33
i've already have all the drivers for everything on the board. the probelm is the marvell driver. the marvell LAN driver. and this time around (i've installed fresh xp 3 times already on that machine) i'm not gonna install that marvell driver from the gigabyte website because it's to no avail.

please look on the link I posted above, and find the post by user 'JoVankaam'. and if you can understand his words better, then please help me do that same thing to the marvell inf. i mean, i KNOW how to find and replace characters in a textfile, but he said i first need to get the drivers from marvell, and for one thing, i can't find the winxp 32bit drivers, only some RIS files i don't even know what that means. so he says to unzip that driver, modify some strings in it, then 'manually install it'. how does one manually install a driver for a device NOT listed under device manager?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#5
January 30, 2009 at 12:45:45
As always, you should custom configure the BIOS settings, not rely on defaults. And make sure the LAN is enabled.

Since you've apparently tried several cards, make sure all the drivers are removed & run CCleaner to help clean up the mess.

Install the chipset drivers 1st, then the LAN drivers. And why aren't you running SP3?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...

Use nLite to slipstream it into the disc:

http://www.nliteos.com/


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#6
January 30, 2009 at 12:46:50
then look at Grimmy's post. he claims the problem came on with sp2 installation. until he updated to sp2, his gigabit lan worked. so he advises to rollback ethernet controller driver but that was back in 2004! where am I gonna find win xp sp1, to install and then update but rollback the pci.sys ?

i went and copied an sp3 pci.sys and overwrote it in that machine, still to no avail. so there are two approaces to get this resolved, one involves messing with marvell's driver file, the INF file, and the second approach deals with pci.sys problems. it's a bit over my head, i can easily mix myself up trying to understand these two approaches.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#7
January 30, 2009 at 12:50:12
jam, here's the machine's status at the moment:

fresh xp, mobo chipset drivers. a pci lan card in a pci slot. it doesn't work, it shows as limited conn. i don't wanna install the marvell drivers from the gigabyte website, until you guys take a look on marvell's website and try to help me find the new drivers released. also, i'll need to specify, there is no bios option to enable or disable LAN. get the manual for the mobo, rev 3.x it is, and look at the bios settings. it's driving me nuts :)

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#8
January 30, 2009 at 12:52:40
was it unethical for me to ask you guys who are mad tight with computing.net, to look over at that other forum? i found that info by entering searchwords on google.

http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driv...

is this the right page? choice three or four ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#9
January 30, 2009 at 12:54:27
I would guess the network chip is not enabled in the BIOS. That MAY be because many of those boards came with TWO network adapters. A 10/100 and the Gigabit one that you have.

If the adapter is enabled but not showing in Device Manager the method you use to install is the hardware wizard in Control panel> add hardware. Let Windows hunt for the device first.


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#10
January 30, 2009 at 12:58:33
That post is about a completely different board based on a completely different chipset, plus it's an AMD board.

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#11
January 30, 2009 at 13:04:00
Windows XP/Server 2003 x86 Driver (32-bit) for Yukon Devices v10.66.4.3

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#12
January 30, 2009 at 13:05:42
othehill, the rj45 plug is lit. it has a steady yellow LEd, ON. doesn't that mean it's on by default then? i tried the add hardware from control panel. i checked 'yes, i already connected the hardware'. the only think listed there that concerns me is the admtek an983 pci LAN card i have plugged in, but the drivers for it i found thru google don't work. it has the yellow mark next to it. and then i went to the bottom of that list and clicked 'add new hardware device'' then i let the wizard search for it automatically. the wizard did not find any new hardware on the computer. so i hit next anyway and chose 'network adapter' from the list. that's where i'm at NOW> and i'll wait for you guys to tell me that I should press NEXT. because i dont wanna install unneeded drivers

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#13
January 30, 2009 at 13:08:09
jam, "That post is about a completely different board based on a completely different chipset, plus it's an AMD board."

true, but it's about the same marvell 8001 built-in chipset for the gigabit lan as my board has.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#14
January 30, 2009 at 13:15:57
Is this another one of those free boards? Did you check the BIOS to see if the adapter is Enabled there?

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#15
January 30, 2009 at 13:17:53
i told you, there is no option in the bios regarding LAN. you can get the manual from the gigabyte website, and look, maybe i'm missing something ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#16
January 30, 2009 at 13:17:57
It doesn't matter. If there was a problem with that particular Marvell chip, you'd find tons of info about numerous different boards. You're referencing one thread from a forum from someone who may or may not have a clue as to what he/she is doing & it's about a totally different board!

And what do you mean you can't find it in the BIOS? I just downloaded the manual, went to the BIOS chapter & on page 43 under Integrated Peripherals, it lists "Onboard H/W LAN"

Onboard H/W LAN
Enabled - Enable Onboard H/W LAN function. (Default value)
Disabled - Disable this function.


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#17
January 30, 2009 at 13:59:16
what manual do YOU have ? i don't have that on mine.
here's a print screen of page 43

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/126...

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


edit : DAMMMn i see it now that i took the printscreen shot! i was viewing the pdf small font.. and those are written so small like. let me see if it exists in the bios itself now :)


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#18
January 30, 2009 at 14:04:46
The name on the top of your screen shot and the model of your board in your original post don't match. You have the wrong manual.

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#19
January 30, 2009 at 14:07:21
okay, as i said the option is MISSING. i'm posting photos i took of the bios and post screens in 1minute.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#20
January 30, 2009 at 14:12:22
othehill :( i just downloaded the 3.x version from the gigabyte website. you think it's the wrong one? even so, why can't i find the enable LAN in my bios, i promise you i've been thru it carefully.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#21
January 30, 2009 at 14:21:43
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/126...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/126...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/126...

i don't think i have the wrong manual, maybe an outdated bios? u guys think i should update bios? what is QFlash? would it be done with a floppy ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#22
January 30, 2009 at 14:22:39
Do you have the latest BIOS?

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#23
January 30, 2009 at 14:24:27
look at image 0768 above, my board has the F5 bios version. only one after that, according to gigabyte, is the F6 which is a "Update CPU microcode" .. i don't see pertinence, so i guess no need ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#24
January 30, 2009 at 14:25:17
My error, I looked at your system specs at the top of your first post and saw the board you have listed there.

I haven't downloaded to manual myself but if there is a network adapter onboard there should be a method to enable/disable it.

jam listed the line in the manual he downloaded.


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#25
January 30, 2009 at 14:28:36
or, since i'm missing the lan option from my bios, could it somehow have been corrupted ? because again by looking at image 0768, you'll see something listed as a PATCH! cpuid 0f41 patch id: 0009> what is that ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#26
January 30, 2009 at 14:34:04
check this out

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/News/Mot...

CIA and MIB I don't have those options anywhere in my bios ! what the h3ll ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#27
January 30, 2009 at 15:10:22
According to your manual the network adapter is made by Realtek. Model RTL8110S.

Below is the link to the drivers and other information. There is software to control the transfer speed with that chip. When on the page linked below look at the line “WinXP (WinServer 2003) Driver 5.7092009/1/21308k GO”

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads...


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#28
January 30, 2009 at 15:29:01
From page 35 of your manual.

Onboard H/W LAN 12 [Enabled]

The 12 refers to either option one, which you have on the G series or 2, which is 10/100 on the C series.

Options are enabled or disabled.

Remove the cable from the RJ45 connector and see what happens.



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#29
January 30, 2009 at 16:40:36
please give me the link where you got the manual.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#30
January 30, 2009 at 16:57:07
i found an instruction in my manual, saying to press ctrl+F1 while in bios to display more advanced options. guess what, it works. but although i can now see the CIA and MIB options, there's STILL no LAN option. what you wrote above, i can't even find in my manual. then you said "Remove the cable from the RJ45 connector and see what happens." what happens? i swear i don't know what to think, and I doubt this board is not fit for the tasks.. it looks like a pretty good mobo and as far as I know gigabyte ain't bad. what am I doing wrong ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#31
January 30, 2009 at 20:25:11
OK, here is the deal. After seeing your #29 I backtracked. Below is the link I used. Notice it is for rev.4 but below in blue is rev.3. I clicked on the rev.3 and then on the American site but evidently got the rev.4 anyway. Now I see why you are confused. Evidently there must have been a problem with the Marvell adapter because on rev.4 boards they switched to Realtek. I don't know what to say. I still think there should be an option to enable/disable the adapter.

The notation below is in the manual.

"If you can't find the set ting you want, please press "Ctrl+F1" to
search the advanced option widden".
The lan should be listed in:
Integrated Peripherals

From page 45
OnboardH/WLAN (*u)
Enabled Enable Onboard H/W LAN function. (Default v alue)
Disabled Disable this function.


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#32
January 31, 2009 at 01:43:07
okay, but i dont have that option in my bios. so let's just forget about the onboard lan a little.

now explain why i can't use a pci nic card?
i have it plugged in, driver perfectly installed and i get limited connectivity. i just tried the same lan card with the same driver on a different pc and it works, it synchronizes with my router in 3 seconds and i'm online. there's obviousy something wrong with the pci driver pci.sys ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#33
January 31, 2009 at 08:07:05
Well, that could be true. The diagrams in your manual show the integrated NIC runs on the PCI bus too.

I suggest you try clearing the CMOS. According to the manual the NIC is Enabled by default anyway. If that doesn't help I would consider flashing the BIOS.

Back in my first response to this thread I asked if this was another one of the free baoards. You didn't reply. What is the history of this board?

Did you pickup on the quote I included in #31? While in the BIOS screens hit control +F1 to bring up advanced options. I can understand an option not responding but I can't understand an option not being present. I know you must be frustrated with this but I think the option must be there.

I suggested removing the NIC patch cable because it could be defective and possibly shorting out the network adapter. You don't need the cable in order to configure the adapter.

The cable that connects a cable modem to the computer or a router is a crossover type cable. If you look carefully at the colors of the wires and their location on the connector you can tell the difference. Looking at a glance they look the same.

Addressing why you can't get an add in network card to work. If the integrated adapter is actually Enabled it would be using the default resources.

I suggest you try a different slot. Also, try a sound card or some other add in card in that slot to verify the slot is working.

Asus BIOS settings usulally allow for many variables. It is possible the slot could be disabled in the BIOS. I haven't noticed that option in a while but it used to be an option on better boards in order to conserve resources when slots were not in use.

I haven't looked at the manual to see if that is an option or not.

A defective cable could cause the card not to function too.


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#34
January 31, 2009 at 11:13:31
download & create a knoppix cd

http://distrowatch.com/index.php?di...

if it picks up your nic, you could at least verify the hardware is good. If your isp is dhcp, you will probabaly be connected when the cd boots. I would go with version 5.1

larry


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#35
January 31, 2009 at 15:23:02
othehill, i'm gonna answer all you questions now.
yes it was a free board. don't know its history at all. i cleared the cmos and left the battery out all of last night. this morning i updated the bios, it has bios version F6 now. about the NIC cable: the cable was NOT plugged into the onboard LAN, it was not plugged in anywhere, and the yellow led by the onboard lan stays ON. it's always ON. bios does not have an option to enable or disable it, even after the bios update. i did try a different kind of pci device, a pci sound card, and it works perfectly i listened to winamp throught it.

now this is what i didn't understand : "The cable that connects a cable modem to the computer or a router is a crossover type cable. If you look carefully at the colors of the wires and their location on the connector you can tell the difference. Looking at a glance they look the same"

I told you, I tried the nic card on another pc, same cable used, same nic, same drivers, and it works fine. so if you're saying the cable could be faulty or wired for a different type of connection, it's not.

Now i'm gonna tell you guys what else I've tried today. I found and installed a win xp sp1, and as far as the onboard lan goes, nothing's changed. however, the nic card no longer says "limited connectivity", it look fine, says it's connected, however it does not work, no packets going in or out, oh and another thing, it sets an IP that makes no sense to me. it's supposed to have a 192.168 IP because it's hooked up to my router. instead it comes up with some other IP. aside from all that, nothing has changed. i now have two realtek nic pci cards and one 3com. i'm willing to try anything at this point. guys, tell me if you think one of them USB>LAN adapters would work? it's an adapter that gets plugged into the usb and has RJ45 female on its other side.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#36
January 31, 2009 at 15:30:28
Response #34 is a good idea. It should indicate if the adapter is functional.

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#37
January 31, 2009 at 15:38:19
You did answer MOST of my questions. However, you haven't commented on this. I mentioned this option twice.

Question 1: I cannot see some options that were included in previous BIOS after updating BIOS.
Why?
Answer: Some advanced options are hidden in new BIOS version. Please press Ctrl and F1 keys after entering BIOS menu and you will be able to see these options.


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#38
January 31, 2009 at 15:44:01
othehill so what are you asking about that ctrl+F1 bios option? i know of it. i found out last night and posted about it, thanks to that, i was actually glad to find the CIA and MIB settings that gigabyte boasts about on this mobo. however, no LAN option. i swear i'm not an idiot. :) answer me this though: if i go and DOWNgrade bios, to say version F1, may it show up? the lan option ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#39
January 31, 2009 at 15:45:39
now i'm gonna try larry's suggestion. in the mantime, think about my usb to lan adapter idea, i can get a new one for like 7bux

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#40
January 31, 2009 at 16:03:16
To answer your question in #38, I doubt it. Makes no sense that Gigabyte would abandon the integrated network adapter.

Are you aware that your board has TWO BIOS chips on it? Look at page 66 of the manual to see how to access each of them.

If you flashed the BIOS it most likely only flashed ONE of them. Try switching to the other. The instructions are clear.

Have you tried the Control+F1 keys AFTER you have opened the listing for Integrated peripherals?


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#41
January 31, 2009 at 16:07:07
"Have you tried the Control+F1 keys AFTER you have opened the listing for Integrated peripherals?" well, yes, but nothing changed.

two bios chips ???? i have another bios dude ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#42
January 31, 2009 at 16:17:07
dual bios is for: (*) For GA-8IPE1000 Pro-G only. ctrl+F1 only works outside the submenus. inside the integrated peripherals, i see no change when i press CTRL+f1


one more thing. the onboard lan rj45 has a yellow led lit up even when there's no cable in it. does that mean short circuit i wonder ?

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#43
January 31, 2009 at 16:33:23
knoppix says firewire found.. i don't have a firewire connector. after it was done installing i ran ice weasel and it says i should check my network conn.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#44
January 31, 2009 at 17:00:38
There is a firewire adapter integrated on that motherboard.

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#45
January 31, 2009 at 17:03:31
okay, let me know if you think the usb-lan adapter can do the trick.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#46
January 31, 2009 at 17:59:11
Rob,

Try a straight through cable instead of a crossover from router to pc.

Far as I know yellow lan light will be on whenever motherboard has power, i.e. whenever pc is plugged into the wall.

Skip


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#47
February 1, 2009 at 02:46:00
ok skip, i'll do that now and post back. problem is, my isp gived me net access on a single mac address. the one in my router. but i'll try and see if i can change the mac on one of the pci NICs and post back. thank you.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#48
February 1, 2009 at 06:21:45
One outside address is normal. Your router will assign internal addresses as needed.

If the network adapter is not working it won't matter how it is connected.


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#49
February 1, 2009 at 16:22:25
ok guys, first off i wanna thank you all for putting the time into this issue. it has been solved as follows:

i went to my electronics guy with the board, he looked at it for almost 3 seconds and pointed to the marvel lan chip and said 'look see that brown bulge on this thing? it's burned out"

then he went to his basement, came back with an epox mobo, blew some hot air underneath it with an air blower, took the marvel 8001 chip, then took the damaged 8001 chip off my board, blew some more hot air on it, seated the thing in place and was cursing about something, then finally he said 'ok it's done'. booted, went into bios, and guees what :) i now have the h/w enable LAN option. it was enabled, so i went to windows, which immediately found the new device, and began installing it. i shut down there, i'll finish it up later.

it was quite a trip. thanks again you dudes are proper people.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#50
February 1, 2009 at 17:04:24
Well back in #14 I asked about the board.

Your guy sounds like a handy fella to have around. Think he can fix my furnace controls, LOL. They want $700 to replace the controller board that operates the zone dampers. Looks very much like a motherboard.


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#51
February 1, 2009 at 17:18:45
yea but he's in bucharest. i paid him 10bux and we're straight.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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