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Name: jum
Date: July 31, 2008 at 23:20:21 Pacific
OS: Windows XP SP2
CPU/Ram: P2.4Ghz/768MB
Product: Asus
Comment:

I have a 2 Gig micro SD card in my LG U300 phone, it started playing up and would not let me write to it so I formatted the memory card with the phone and now it only has 1 Gig free. I connected it to my computer with an SD card reader and disk management says it is a 2 Gig drive with 1 Gig free space and 1 Gig unallocated, I used a program called Flash Memory Toolkit but that would not fix the problem. Does anyone know how I can get it back to 2 Gig?

Jum



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Response Number 1
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: August 1, 2008 at 08:21:45 Pacific
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It sounds like the phone's software is only meant to deal with up to 1gb flash cards.
No probem.
Go to Control Panel in XP - Classic View - Administrative Tools - Computer Management - Disk Management.
Look at the Properties of the flash card. It's probably using FAT partitioning, or possibly FAT32 partitioning.
Whatever it is, delete the existing partition and partition the then unallocated card using the same type of partitioning, and the whole card capacity will be partitioned and formatted to it's max capacity unless you chose otherwise.
XP will not let you use NTFS partitioning on a partition smaller than 4gb, and in any case, the phone probably wouldn't recognize a NTFS partition.


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Response Number 2
Name: jum
Date: August 1, 2008 at 18:09:03 Pacific
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Good idea but windows wont let me delete either partition, the drive wont even show up on Partitionmagic 8. If I run the eraser option on the program ‘ Flash Memory Toolkit ‘ it displays Capacity 1938 MB: Free n/a and when I click on Format it only lets me format at 968 MB, I wonder if my card reader only does 1 Gig. Thanks for your suggestion.

Jum


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Response Number 3
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: August 2, 2008 at 08:35:05 Pacific
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Unallocated space has already had the partition table information for whatever data was on it deleted, and if it's unallocated space it is not a partition, so it can't be deleted.

What does XP's Disk Management say the ~ 1gb partition type is?
If it doesn't say FAT or FAT32, your phone software is using a partition type XP does not recognize and it cannot deal with that, and neither can Partition Magic.

I don't know if Partition Magic 8.x can even recognize a flash card. I believe it was first released before they even existed.

What card reader, on what?
E.g. is it built into the computer, or is it a separate plug in device plugged into the computer, or are you connecting the phone to the computer via a cable, or do you mean the card reader in the phone?
If the software that is only partitioning a ~1gb partition is using FAT or FAT32 partitioning, if you can use that "Flash Memory Toolkit" software to erase the flash card without having to partition and format the card, do that, then plug the card into a reader connected to the computer, and you should be able to partition and format it in XP no problem.


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Response Number 4
Name: jum
Date: August 2, 2008 at 09:12:55 Pacific
Reply:

Disk Manager shows 1gb with fat32 and 1gb unallocated. The card reader I am using is a 1gb mp3 player that uses an SD card, they say it can be used as a card reader but they don’t tell you how big an SD card you can read. If I erase with “Flash Memory Toolkit” it tells me I have a 2gb flash memory, but before I can access it I have to format with Windows XP and then Disk Manager shows 1gb with fat32 and 1gb unallocated that’s why I think it might be the card reader in the 1gb mp3 player.

Jum


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Response Number 5
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: August 2, 2008 at 11:29:45 Pacific
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Could you read the full capacity of the ~2gb card when it was working okay in the MP3 player before? (Commonly, the capacity may be the "raw" capacity - you may not get the full capacity, e.g. 2gb, after it has been partitioned and formatted)If you could, the electronics in the MP3 player itself doesn't have a 1 gb limit, but the partitioning and formatting software that comes with it might.

Have you gone to the manufacturer's web site of the MP3 player to look for info?

"If I erase with “Flash Memory Toolkit” it tells me I have a 2gb flash memory, but before I can access it I have to format with Windows XP and then Disk Manager shows 1gb with fat32 and 1gb unallocated "

You can't see a drive or flash card that has been erased and/or that has not been partitioned and formatted to something XP recognizes in My Computer or Windows Explorer, but you CAN see it in Disk Management in Control Panel.
If you can quit the program after it has erased the flash card, and if you can then see it in Disk Management, you can partition and format it in XP to it's full capacity as I described.
You didn't mention what partitioning type XP said it had after you reformatted it with the player's software. If it was FAT and not FAT32, you should use FAT - the MP3 player may not recognize the card properly if you tried to reformat using FAT32 in XP after that.

If you can't see it in Disk Management when it has been erased, you will need to use another card reader in order to partition and format in XP so it has the full capacity. If you don't have one, use someone elses, or buy one - they're cheap these days.


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Response Number 6
Name: jum
Date: August 2, 2008 at 18:43:07 Pacific
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Before I formatted through the phone I could read close to 2gb on the computer. The Mp3 player is “VNIA COM106 portable MP3 player & flash drive” and the card reader is “avid sd/mmc”, I cant find much info on either but I did read somewhere that “avid sd/mmc” is high capacity. “Flash Memory Toolkit" says erase function gives back the full capacity of the card but after erase, Disk Management shows 969 MB Healthy, 969 MB unallocated even after I exit “Flash Memory Toolkit”. Format only let’s me format at 968 MB with FAT32 or FAT.

Jum


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Response Number 7
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: August 3, 2008 at 06:31:30 Pacific
Reply:

It sounds like you are just erasing the data contents of the existing partition, not the partition itself.
You should be able to delete the partition, and make a new one the max size possible size, then format it, in XP itself .


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Response Number 8
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: August 3, 2008 at 06:35:27 Pacific
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It sounds like you are just erasing the data contents of the existing partition, not getting rid of the partition itself.
You should be able to delete the partition, and make a new one the max size possible size, then format it, in XP itself .


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Response Number 9
Name: jum
Date: August 3, 2008 at 06:47:03 Pacific
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If I right click on the flash drive or either partition on the flash drive with Disk Management the delete option is not highlighted, I will look for flash memory partitioning software.

Jum


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Response Number 10
Name: jum
Date: August 3, 2008 at 07:55:38 Pacific
Reply:

I fixed it with software called “Windows Enabler”, the following link explains. Thanks for all your help.

http://www.paksoftlib.com/forum_top...

Jum


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Response Number 11
Name: jum
Date: August 3, 2008 at 07:58:48 Pacific
Reply:

I fixed it with software called “Windows Enabler”, the following link explains. Thanks for all your help.

http://www.paksoftlib.com/forum_top...

Jum


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Response Number 12
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: August 3, 2008 at 08:11:47 Pacific
Reply:

Did you read what I wrote at the beginning of response 3 - the unallocated space is NOT a partition!

I took a look at a usb flash drive in Disk Management - I see what you mean - Delete partition is greyed out.

See this - you can get around that by getting Windows to recognize the flash card differently:
http://www.lancelhoff.com/2008/05/0...


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Response Number 13
Name: jum
Date: August 3, 2008 at 19:13:54 Pacific
Reply:

I realize unallocated space is not a partition, I may have referred to it as a partition. The link you posted doesn’t seem to be there. Have you had a look at “Windows Enabler”, it enables grayed out options.

Jum


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Response Number 14
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: August 4, 2008 at 09:13:29 Pacific
Reply:

Apparently for some unknown reason the software used on this site that shortens longer links to save space in the post chops off the latter part of the link I referred to.

Search , using Yahoo, for: multi partition a USB flash drive

The first "hit" should be the one I referred to, at the lancehoff site.

It mentions a similar program, Boot It, that can toggle the way Windows treats the flash drive or card, and it tells you how to multi-partition a flash drive or card.


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Response Number 15
Name: jum
Date: August 4, 2008 at 18:05:09 Pacific
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I downloaded that software and might have to try it on my 4Gig mp3 player, the player has a 700Mb encrypted partition that someone at the store must have made and I want to get rid of it so I can use the full amount of memory but the software that came with it wont delete it without a password and I am sure the discount shop where I got it from who ordered it from another branch wont know. The 4 Gig mp3 player does display as a flash drive on My Computer.

Jum


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