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final setup, is this mid/high end gaming?

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Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 04:46:30 Pacific
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
CPU/Ram: 2.611 GHz / 3071 MB
Subcategory: General
Comment:

i have decided on my final setup, now i just need advice.

the parts are


ASUS M3N78-EM GeForce 8300 Socket AM2+ VGA DVI HDMI 8-channel Audio MATX Motherboard

Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 HyperX Memory CL5 2.2V Ram

Antec 300 Three Hundred Black Case

Sony BDU-X10S Blu-Ray BD-ROM SATA Black Internal Blu-Ray Drive

AMD Phenom X3 8750 Socket AM2 Black Edition Retail Boxed Processor

2 Extra Value 12" Blue Dual Cold Cathode Kit

Hiyatek Black Flip LCD Screen 52-in-1 Card Reader With E-SATA - Temp and Card Reader

Hiyatek Black Fan Controller - 3x Fan Control Knobs 2x USB2.0

3 Extra Value 120mm Blue LED Fan

Western Digital 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache (would eventually get up to 3 of these but to save money i may just stick with my current 500GB HD)

Akasa AK-925 Revo, Dual Fluid ThermoDynamic Cooler with Silent 92mm PWM fan Dual Platform Socket AM2 775 939
Proccesor Fan


and maybe thsi psu

Input:
* Voltage: 90-264VAC
* Frequency: 47-63Hz
* Current: 4A Max.at 230VAC
Output:
* Over voltage protection: +12V1,+12V2,+12V3,
* Power good signal: 100 - 500 ms
* Power fail signal: 1 ms Min.
* Hold up time: 17 ms Min.
Output rating:

if thats not enough info on the psu please check the link for extended specification...

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135196

so yeah, is that a good rig or?

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI



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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: June 15, 2009 at 05:03:11 Pacific
Reply:

I see a lot of useless garbage but I guess that's what you want.

No video card? You're not gonna be able to play many games with the GeForce 8300.


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Response Number 2
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 05:05:11 Pacific
Reply:

lol i have a 1gb nvidia card, but im going to get an sli 4870 factry overclocked card. and name the garbage?

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 3
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: June 15, 2009 at 08:16:06 Pacific
Reply:

hi
amazingdan,

drop the revo cooler, & replace with

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...
looks like same price, plenty of better coolers even stock would do, your not OCing are you?

if your stuck on budget as i note your mobo & cpu approx £60 - £70 range each

drop the fancy lights back flip colour coded card reader fan controllers etc & the blue ray player ,( you know your not going to use it its what ps3 was made for)

i'd reprice for a E8200 or better and decent motherboard.

aria e8200 @ £80

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Comp...

probably get better if you look around.
meant to ask what is your budget ?


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Response Number 4
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 08:23:13 Pacific
Reply:

ive know gone for an x4 amd phenom at 2.3 Ghz and at 50 quid ill put the BR in l8er plus the intel is only dual core, also i am going to oc, what fan should i use, also whats wrong with the current mobo

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 5
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: June 15, 2009 at 09:20:45 Pacific
Reply:

hi

whats wrong with the current mobo?, wait for Jams answer.
A welding mask might be advisable for safety.

why bother OCing just buy a 'better pc' in the first place
& be where you want to be, OC later when theres nothing to lose. How'syour OCing skillz? vs mobo cpu reliability, the bit that burns out with your wallet.

Nothing is going to make games run better on 3 core as opposed to two especially if your OS is xp or vista ive yet to see any mid range pc run better on 2,3 or 4 core with any major discernable difference over a few fps , the ones that do cost £1000 + wer'e not in that league here.

heres some benchies
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cp...
contrasts with toms bench mark
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/chart...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...
interesting reviews
& laughs :D where we'd all like to be

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...

gl hf


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: June 15, 2009 at 09:21:31 Pacific
Reply:

You've asked at least 3 times about your configuration scheme & you were told the same thing each time. If you're going to run an AMD CPU, get a motherboard based on an AMD/ATI chipset (780G or 790 series) & make sure the southbridge is either the SB710 or SB750.

The aftermarket CPU cooling fan is unnecessary, as are the lights & numerous 120mm fans/fan controller & card reader....that is the useless garbage. Where's the floppy drive on your list? Hmmmm. And there's no such thing as an "sli 4870 factry overclocked card". ATI is strictly Crossfire...nVidia is strictly SLi.

You need to get your head in the game...I still don't think you know what's what.


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Response Number 7
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 09:26:08 Pacific
Reply:

sorry i meant crossfire, and u need it cool inside for oc
, also i dont understand what you mean on the mobo?

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 8
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 09:27:14 Pacific
Reply:

also i need oc as i want a quad core, but cheap, so i need to oc it to around 3.0 Ghz

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 9
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 09:28:44 Pacific
Reply:

oh and now i am going for the titan cooling

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 10
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 09:50:30 Pacific
Reply:

okay i may move to that intel reccomended after viewing the reviews haha, what motherboard should i match it with? and what else needs to be changed to make it compatible?

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 11
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 09:58:03 Pacific
Reply:

is there any way i can talk to you in realtime, do any of you have msn so i can get a better undertstanding of sli and xfire and mobo and that?

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 12
Name: grasshopper
Date: June 15, 2009 at 10:45:16 Pacific
Reply:

This thread has become absurd !!! AmazingDan, the last thing you should be doing is trying to build a machine. I would hate to see what the thread would look like if you put one together and it didn't work. No offense meant to you, I just think you're way out of your league. IMHO.


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Response Number 13
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 11:08:12 Pacific
Reply:

ive already built one, it was a low spec one though, which was relitevaly quick cheap and easy to put together.

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 14
Name: grasshopper
Date: June 15, 2009 at 11:24:08 Pacific
Reply:

OK, my apologies then. Good Luck to you..


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Response Number 15
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 11:28:06 Pacific
Reply:

but i still need advice is my point. im still confused whether i should go for an intel setup or amd, check my other post in cpu/oc section.

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 16
Name: jam
Date: June 15, 2009 at 12:14:21 Pacific
Reply:

You've been given tons of advice but you don't take it & it doesn't seem like you've done any research about which components work best with each other.

As I've said several times now, the best board for an AMD CPU is one based on either the AMD 780G chipset or one of the AMD 790's (790X, 790FX, 790GX)...& make sure the southbridge is either the SB710 or SB750, especially if you plan on overclocking. Both chipsets support ACC (Advanced Clock Calibration) & are superior to the older SB600 or SB700.

You don't need a ton of fans in the case...it's just a waste of money, it will most likely be noisy & it won't necessarily make your system run any cooler. I provded links about cooling in your other threads, you obviously didn't read any of them. AMD recommends a single exhaust fan in the rear of the case - that's it! Front intake fans are of little or no benefit. Side panel fans are disruptive to the "front to rear" airflow & should be avoided. Tests have shown that a single 120mm rear exhaust fan is all that's necessary for optimal cooling. And you don't need an aftermarket CPU cooling fan. The CPU comes with one - use it.


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Response Number 17
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 15, 2009 at 12:27:18 Pacific
Reply:

im now going for an intel but thankyou for the advice jam, your a computing god lol

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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Response Number 18
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: June 15, 2009 at 12:57:50 Pacific
Reply:

hi
now ive seen the other post ,
yes Jams suggestion is one of the best mobo's for the £100 pound mark

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145751

Asus P5Q PRO P45 Socket 775

as this mobo has copper pipe cooling splashed all over it the fenrir cooler may be very difficult to fit as it uses back plates, (overclockers.co.uk also stock it ring them up for advice, & price for build / set up OC etc )

Do your sums on the budget and dont get carried away like you seem to have been. I m suggesting , 'steering' you to a better rig which will last longer spec wise than what you were proposing. Like buying a car, eg mondeo , or the ST mondeo , same cars, very different performance.

& Read jams links on case cooling. 120 mmm fan x1 (with leds if you must, i do :)

I dont visit the OC section so missed your post, & generally dont advocate OCing, just buy the best for the job.
the E8400 will suffice for your needs for quite some time "as stock! especially with the 4870 tho id wait till nvidia bring out the next wave of cards after the summer, you may have missed last years massive price drop war ati vs nvidia.
your money your choice
& take some time to read other links/ posts there is no quick & cheap when the blue smoke genie appears.


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Response Number 19
Name: AmazingDan
Date: June 16, 2009 at 10:09:54 Pacific
Reply:

thankyou, and i shall wait it will be around xmas when i get my new card (s) thanks for the help everyone, you have all been legendary!

Samsung 32" HDTV
Logitech DiNovo Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech X-540
Custom Built PC
Sky
80GB PS3 HDMI


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