Ess 1938s

September 20, 2009 at 17:54:53
Specs: Windows XP
is this a sound card so you have sound on your PC or is this for some kind of games and is it compatible with XP or is it for an older PC?

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#1
September 20, 2009 at 19:19:10
It is a sound card/chip and is compatible with XP.

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#2
September 20, 2009 at 20:10:53
can you tell me exactly what the ESS 1938S does for your computer. is it mono or stereo and is it worth even putting in a computer that the sound doesn't work in?

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#3
September 20, 2009 at 23:18:23

"....a computer that the sound doesn't work in?"

If it's built into the motherboard, it's extremely unlikely it doesn't work, but Windows may not have the drivers to make it produce sound.

You must use amplifed speakers meant for use with computers with most onboard sound, they must be powered on and not at minimum volume, and a single pair of speakers plugs into the green 1/8" jack.

The onboard sound must be enabled in the mboard's bios Setup settings.

If you installed Windows from a regular XP CD, XP may not have the built in drivers for it. In that case you need to need to load the drivers for the built in sound chipset.

If you tell us what brand and model you have, we can tell you where you can get the sound drivers, and other drivers for your system.

State the make and model of your brand name system, or if it is a generic system, the make and model of the desktop mboard.
The specific brand name system model is usually on a label on the outside of thecase somewhere, or it can be determined by going to the brand name's web site.
The model of the mboard in a generic system is usually printed in obvious larger characters on the surface of the mboard, often between the card slots.

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"can you tell me exactly what the ESS 1938S does for your computer. is it mono or stereo..."

It's a sound chipset.
It's at least stereo, or better, e.g. 5.1. If it's on a physical PCI card, you can use it, but don't install it in the PCI slot on the end closest to the center of the mboard - that slot only works properly for PCI video cards. Unplug the computer when you install it or remove it.

The best place to get drivers for it is from whoever made the sound card. Look on it for anything printed in it that might be a brand or model number, tell us what you find. If you see a FCC ID: number, that's an excellent clue - tell us what it is


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#4
September 20, 2009 at 23:52:01
I have a HP compaq d330 it has an ASUS P4SD motherboard, when i got it, it was torn apart and i put it back together, then a friend lent me his windows disk and i installed that. When i go into the device manager there are no exclamation marks showing for the sound. I installed sound max drivers, but still couldn't get any sound, i also went into admin. tools and checked if the sound was turned off in there, but it was set to automatic so i figured that was right.

I have the speakers hooked up right. When i couldnt get any sound out of the mboard i put a sound blaster live card in it and it got sound right away, but if its possible i'd like to get the onboard sound working.

The reason i asked what a Ess 1938s does is because i have one, but when i installed it, it sait the a new game port was just installed, so i didnt know what to think then about it. The sound blaster live is only a 2.0 i think so its only mono and if i cant get the onboard sound to work i thought if the Ess1938s worked better than the sound blaster i'd use that instead.

Right off i can't find any numbers on the card except Ess1938s

I dont know if that will help you help me more or not, i want you to know that i appreciate your help.


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#5
September 21, 2009 at 11:40:39
"The sound blaster live is only a 2.0 i think so its only mono .."

2.0 probably indicates it's one of the second series of SB Live! cards.
It's probably at least a 5.0 capable card - 2 front, 2 rear, center channels, maybe 5.1, with a subwoofer output.

All computer sound I know of, even OLD computer sound, is at least stereo.
The Mic for most onboard sound and for old sound chipsets is usually mono; it may be stereo for more recent sound chipsets, more likely when it's a chipset on a physical sound card, or it's a USB connected sound adapter.

"The reason i asked what a Ess 1938s does is because i have one, but when i installed it, it sait the a new game port was just installed.."

Some onboard sound, and many sound cards you install in a slot, have a physical 15 "pin" legacy D-sub game port; sometimes the mboard has no physical game port but it has a game port header on the mboard.
(Your mboard probably has neither).
Windows may find that game port automatically, or it may find it only after the sound software has been installed.
Windows only supports one legacy game port at a time. If you have more than one, all but one must be disabled, or all game ports must be disabled.
If it's built into the mboard or there's a game port header for it on the mboard, the game port on that can be disabled in the bios Setup.
If it's on a card in aslot, you may or may not be able to disable it in Device Manager, or in the configuration settings for the sound adapter otherwise.

Windows supports you installing the drivers/software for more that one sound adapter, but only one of them can be used by Windows at a time. If you install the drivers/software for more than one sound adapter, and if more than one sound adapter is present, the sound adapter the last software was installed for becomes the default adapter used by Windows.
If you have more than one sound adapter, you can change which sound adapter is used for what in Control Panel - Sounds and Audio Devices - Audio.

"...i put a sound blaster live card in it and it got sound right away, but if its possible i'd like to get the onboard sound working."

XP has support for detecting and providing built in drivers for Creative (SoundBlaster) sound chips / chipsets that were available before or were going to be available when XP first came out - however, sometimes it installs the wrong drivers, or it doesn't install wavetable support for sound that supports that.

"The sound blaster live ...."

The chip / chipset on that may be superior to the ESS 1938s.

....Please - answer the questions or requests for info marked with * ....

* Find the model number printed on the card - CTxxxxx or SBxxxxx - tell us what it is - and then I can probably tell you more.


"...i can't find any numbers on the card except Ess1938s.."


* If you see a FCC ID: number, that's an excellent clue - tell us what it is.

There are generic drivers available on the web for that chip / chipset but they may not enable everything the card is capable of.

E.g.
XP drivers
http://www.softwaredriverdownload.c...

www.esstech.com no longer has generic drivers for older sound chips / chipsets including for that chipset.

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"HP compaq d330 "

There are 3 categories of models, according to the type of case

- HP Compaq d330 Desktop PC
- HP Compaq d330 Microtower Desktop PC
- HP Compaq d330 Slim Tower Desktop PC

There are many possible model numbers
E.g. this may not be all that are possible:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/sp...

* Find the specific model number on the label on the outside of the case somewhere, and tell us what it is.

That is useful regarding finding the specific hardware that came with your computer that you may need the drivers for.

If the mboard is in a generic case, or if you're not sure the Compaq case is the one the mboard was originally installed in, or this is a good idea in any case
* - find the part number on the stuck on label on the mboard - usually 9 characters, usually all numbers - xxxxxx-xxx - the one for the mboard itself often has bar codes on it as well - and tell us what it is.

" ASUS P4SD"

It's an ASUS P4SD-LA - one in an OEM only mboard series, made only for brand name builders. Asus has no support for this series on their web sites. Similar Asus models may have different chips on them, so sound or LAN drivers for similar Asus models may not work, and you probably can't use Asus bios updates on mboards with HP or Compaq bios versions because HP or Compaq bios versions are often oddball, and the I/O chip on the ASUS P4SD-LA may be different.

There are at least 4 possible versions of ASUS P4SD-LA .
Two of those have integrated video, two do not.

It appears they all have the same sound chipset, but you MUST install the Intel main chipset drivers before you install the sound drivers, if you haven't already done so.

Intel main chipset drivers
INF Update Utility
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...

Optional - if the mboard has intergrated video, these are the latest Intel drivers for it:

IntelĀ® Graphics Media Accelerator Driver
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...

Installs drivers for the integrated graphics controller of IntelĀ® chipsets. This is not to be used if the system has a third party graphics card.
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You should be able to get your onboard sound to work.


There are at least 4 possible versions of ASUS P4SD-LA.

All of the four I found have this sound chip or chipset:

Onboard Audio RealTek ALC650 six-channel audio CODEC subsystem
AC'97 2.2 compliant

Realtek provides drivers for many brands of chips / chipsets. In this case the sound chip / chipset is made by ADI, and ADI calls it's sound software SoundMax. There are many different ADI sound chips / chipsets - you must install the software for the correct one - if you randomly get SoundMax driver sfrom the web, it's a lot more likely they won't work properly with your ADI chipset.

The correct sound drivers (and associated programs) for that are these:

ADI SoundMax Audio Driver for Windows 98SE/2000/ME/XP
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...

Optional?:

ADI SoundMax AC97 Integrated Digital Audio Driver
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...

NOTE:
Customers using SoundMax II (Drivers 5.12.1.3509 or earlier) will lose Sensuara 3D algorithm Support.

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- Make sure the integrated audio is enabled in the mboard's bios Setup

- at this point, it's a very good idea to DISABLE the loading any resident module of any anti-malware programs you have installed - a program that scans for suspiciuos activity all the time - because they're well known to sometimes interfere with the proper un-installation and installtion of software, and you oftn get no indication that that didn't work properly.
E.g. AVG free and paid, Spybot free and paid, AdAware paid, Avast! free and paid, Malwarebytes paid, and Norton (Symantec) products have a resident module.
AdAware free, Malwarebytes free, do not have a resident module.
Usually you MUST do that in the configuration settings of the program - in most cases that resident module is NOT disabled from loading when you disable entries in Msconfig - Startup for the program from loading.

If you don't know how to do that, see the Help in the program, or tell us which anti-malware software you're using, and we'll tell you what you need to do.

- Go to Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs
Un-install any listings that appear to be for SoundMax or ADI or Realtek sound.

If you are prompted to reboot, do that.

DO NOT install any sound drivers while Windows is booting!
CANCEL that!

- Go to Device Manager.
E.g. RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager
Open up Sound, video and game controllers.
If there are any listings there for SoundMax, ADI, or Realtek, RIGHT click on them and Un-install them.

Reboot the computer if prompted to do so.

DO NOT install any sound drivers while Windows is booting!
CANCEL that!

Install the SoundMax drivers (and associated programs - sound "drivers" installations almost always include associated programs) using the proper installation program.

The SoundMax sound should work fine, if you have a pair of amplified speakers plugged into the green port.
You may need to reboot before it does.
If Windows wants to auto install sound related drivers while booting AFTER that proper software has been installed, let it do that.

- if you disabled the resident module of any anti-malware software from loading, enable it again.
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I found an Asus OEM manual for one of the 4 P4SD-LA models.

MANUAL P4SD-LA Oxford:
http://www.elhvb.com/mboards/OEM/HP...

This sound related info MAY be the same for all 4 models...

page 15 - Speaker out connector for optional audio module

page 16
- Front headphone connector (stereo)
- Microphone connector (Front Mic in - Mono, mic power pin for mics that require that)

Page 17
- Internal audio connectors (4 pins; CD, Aux)
- Digital audio connecter (SPDIF)


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