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Name: kubalai
Date: September 24, 2008 at 06:25:51 Pacific
OS: WinXP Pro SP3+
CPU/Ram: 1200/1Gb
Product: Home Built
Comment:

Hi,
I have a Matsonic MS8308EP board & Crucial Scan says that it only accepts Non-ECC RAM. However I am currently running my PC with ECC RAM installed which WinXP correctly recognises as 2 x 512 sticks.

Since it is obviously working should I leave well alone or will it damage my PC using these sticks.

The sticks of RAM currently installed are :
2 x 512Mb - Samsung PC133R ECC SDRAM M390S6450AT1-C75

I am thouroughly confused & bewildered by the intricacies of memory & would appreciate any help you can offer.

Regards,
CDH

CDH



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Response Number 1
Name: worldlibrary
Date: September 24, 2008 at 06:40:18 Pacific
Reply:

I would leave well enough alone.

You can't fix whats not broken.

ECC has an extra chip for error correction.


If your system....didn't like it, most likely it would not even boot up.


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Response Number 2
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 24, 2008 at 07:08:15 Pacific
Reply:

Do you get random errors? Worldlibrary is probably correct but I can see where the EEC RAM could possibly cause problems.

Check the BIOS settings to see if the RAM is running at the correct speed.

Why are you running EEC RAM anyway? Recycled from a different machine?


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Response Number 3
Name: Mike Newcomb
Date: September 24, 2008 at 08:27:48 Pacific
Reply:

I have found the only place that fully and accurately advises which memory options a motherboard supports is the manual for that motherboard.

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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Response Number 4
Name: kubalai
Date: September 24, 2008 at 08:59:26 Pacific
Reply:

First of all thanks for the quick responses, your advice is appreciated.
worldlibrary wrote:
'If your system....didn't like it, most likely it would not even boot up.'

Yeah that's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure.

othehill wrote:
'Why are you running EEC RAM anyway? Recycled from a different machine?'

Picked them up at a boot sale so I thought i'd test them on an old board. Didn't expect them to work really but they appear to work fine.

Mike Newcomb wrote:
'I have found the only place that fully and accurately advises which memory options a motherboard supports is the manual for that motherboard.'

Agreed but the manual doesn't specify and the Matsonic website appears to have disapeared
into web limbo.

Anyway I've been running it now for a few hours and all seems well. If it blows up I'll be back and let you know, or perhaps not depending on size of fire :)

Once again thanks for the advice

Regards

CDH

CDH


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Response Number 5
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 24, 2008 at 11:20:48 Pacific
Reply:

I think when the specs say it takes non-ECC ram it just means it doesn't require ECC ram. That is, if you use ECC ram its error correcting capabilites are ignored. If a MOBO does need ECC ram and you use non-ECC that's when you start getting error messages.

That was the case with the old SIMM ram that had parity and non-parity versions. And there was no problem in using either when the MOBO didn't require parity. I think ECC is more sophisticated than parity checking but the idea is the same.


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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 24, 2008 at 12:00:47 Pacific
Reply:

I couldn't find a manufactuer's site either. Did determine that board is a Socket A (462) AMD with a SIS 730 series combo chipset (intergrated graphics). The SIS site wasn't much help either.


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Response Number 7
Name: kubalai
Date: September 25, 2008 at 05:39:42 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for all replies. I’m going to build a server now with that board & put those sticks in it. I’m sure there won’t be any problems now you’ve explained it but I’ll keep you updated if there are any.

CDH


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Response Number 8
Name: jefro
Date: September 25, 2008 at 13:50:29 Pacific
Reply:

Don't forget, registered ecc and non-registered ecc too. Good servers require registered ecc ram.

"Best Practices", Event viewer, host file, perfmon, antivirus, anti-spyware, Live CD's, backups, are in my top 10


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Response Number 9
Name: kubalai
Date: September 27, 2008 at 06:46:39 Pacific
Reply:

Yep, R RAM is best for servers & those sticks will be perfect.

Thanks,

CDH


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