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Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: September 28, 2009 at 19:08:13 Pacific
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista HP 64-bit/Win7 64-bit
CPU/Ram: 1.596 GHz / 1013 MB
Product: Toshiba / Satellite a200
Subcategory: General
Tags: motherboard, DX11, DirectX 11, i5, intel
Comment:

Hi, I'm thinking of what to put in my new build when DX11 and Windows 7 come out. I already know about the Direct X 11 cards, but I need to know about motherboard compatibility.
Will new mobos come out with support for the new cards, or can you use them with any motherboard that has a PCI-e X16 expansion slot?

The motherboard I am planning to get is the Intel Desktop Board DP55KG designed for Intel's latest Core i7 and Core i5 processors, and I will be getting an i5 (i7s are ridiculously expensive for a minor advantage over i5s).

Thanks,
WINDOWSVII

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.



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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: September 28, 2009 at 19:49:24 Pacific
Reply:

I would recommend against an Intel board & definitely recommend against buying from TigerD. The same board is $25 less at newegg:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...


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Response Number 2
Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: September 29, 2009 at 18:55:44 Pacific
Reply:

Well what board out there is compatible with Intel's i5 processor? DDR3 RAM-compatible?

The only reason I was going to buy from Tiger Direct is because they have an outlet REALLY close by (as in, next city over from where I live, and that's a 30-min drive).

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.


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Response Number 3
Name: likelystory
Date: September 29, 2009 at 19:36:21 Pacific
Reply:

Personally I stand behind newegg. If they tell you it will be there on Friday be looking on Wednesday and the shipping usually isn't bad. I have only bought 1 thing from tiger direct. A hard drive that looked like it had been run over by a semi when I got it. They gave me a ton of grief about returning it and wanted to charge me a restocking fee. I had to file a claim through my bank to get my money.

Likely

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Response Number 4
Name: likelystory
Date: September 29, 2009 at 19:45:16 Pacific
Reply:

I think this should be more than adequate but I could be wrong.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!


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Response Number 5
Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: September 30, 2009 at 15:56:29 Pacific
Reply:

hah LOL I was reading the user reviews, and I saw a guy who was complaining how the NORMAL double power-up cycle adds 5-10 seconds. Hey, my laptop, when I use Windows Vista, takes approx. 30 seconds to a minute just to get onto the log on screen, and about 2-3 minutes to actually log in, and another minute or so to load all the startup programs (just the Sidebar and MSN, I think).

So you see why I need an upgrade!

Anyways, I think that board looks good, since it seems people put the i5 on it, thanks.
Any other suggestions, in case this doesn't work?

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: September 30, 2009 at 16:49:49 Pacific
Reply:

"So you see why I need an upgrade!"

No, I don't see why you need an upgrade. It seems to me like you need to disable a lot of useless garbage that loads at startup & probably do a full antivirus & spyware scan.

"what board out there is compatible with Intel's i5 processor?"

If you had bothered to check the link on my other response, you'd have seen that I supplied a list of 35 boards based on the P55 chipset.


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Response Number 7
Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: September 30, 2009 at 17:46:17 Pacific
Reply:

No, see, it's the BIOS chip that causes the comp. to load slowly (and the fact that it has Windows Vista installed when it can't support it).

I got this laptop back in '06, should have gotten a desktop for the same price, might have been a helluva lot better.
It's the low-end Toshiba laptop of the Satellite a200 series. It's not even the one with the media controls or the rounded speakers, in fact, I think my battery was on the recall list (though I haven't had much problems with it). They're now on to Satellite 500+ series, this came with an Intel Celeron M processor, which is pretty much BEFORE Pentium 4's came out. Heck, my old '98 computer has the original Celeron processor!

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.


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Response Number 8
Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: September 30, 2009 at 17:51:34 Pacific
Reply:

And, just so you know, I do a full Antivirus scan with AVG Internet Security, which is a very reliable antivirus/antispyware/antimalware program, just about every time I go on Windows (not very often, admittedly, since I love my Ubuntu Linux a helluva lot more than I like "Windoze"). My processor's speed is only 1.6Ghz (no way to change it), so Windows is useless for games, (even halo 1). And the onboard graphics is so s***** for Aero, have to enable Classic mode for it to even function properly.

And I'm sorry I didn't go on those links when you posted them, I probably should have, but I just assumed they were comparisons of Intel's price for the P55 board on TigerD and newegg.

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.


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Response Number 9
Name: plyduster
Date: September 30, 2009 at 20:44:44 Pacific
Reply:

"No, see, it's the BIOS chip that causes the comp. to load slowly (and the fact that it has Windows Vista installed when it can't support it)."

Huh?

The Bios chip has nothing to do with how fast windows loads. As jam mentioned above, it's probably all the pre-installed crap on your laptop slowing you down.


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Response Number 10
Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: October 1, 2009 at 13:01:44 Pacific
Reply:

Ah, I'm sorry, I forgot that all the BIOS chip does is check all your components. Then it hands control over to the OS.

I guess it is Windows that's slowing it down.

Right, it's only after I select Vista from the Bootloader does my computer really start to slow down.

Well, anyways, until I get the money to build my new PC, I'll just use Ubuntu Linux for most of my needs.
I'll avoid using Vista for a few reasons:
-It partitioned my 110GB hard drive to its needs, so I can't do a full Ubuntu install; only WUBI.
-My computer can't support Aero very well, using a Vista-like theme on Ubuntu works MUCH better.
-I really have no reason to use it.

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.


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Response Number 11
Name: Roki
Date: October 1, 2009 at 13:22:50 Pacific
Reply:

I don't know if the i5's will run as hot as the i7, but if they do I suggest you give temperature control serious consideration while compiling your new build.


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Response Number 12
Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: October 2, 2009 at 14:36:09 Pacific
Reply:

heh, look at Ikonik's Ra full-tower case. 13 blue LED fans, liquid cooling pre-installed (!) and plenty of circulation.

That cool enough for ya?

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.


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Response Number 13
Name: SkipCox
Date: October 2, 2009 at 14:48:00 Pacific
Reply:

Put the 12 fans you don't need up for sale @ $2 each...that'll get you a case of beer.

Skip


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Response Number 14
Name: jam
Date: October 2, 2009 at 14:53:24 Pacific
Reply:

So let me get this straight...the i7 is overly expensive but paying over $400 for a case is perfectly acceptable? And you don't see 13 fans as being excessive & overkill?? Especially when testing sites have proven that more is NOT better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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Response Number 15
Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: October 2, 2009 at 20:21:09 Pacific
Reply:

Hey, the case is cool (hah, get it?), it's proven to work with many an overclock - in fact, that's what it was designed for.

I'm willing to spend $450 on a sick (diamond cut/blasted) case with easy-to-install components (check out 3dgameman's video review) and pre-installed liquid cooling. And maybe I will get the i7. I see it for less than $400 at Newegg.

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.


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Response Number 16
Name: WINDOWSVII
Date: October 2, 2009 at 20:23:06 Pacific
Reply:

Oh, and BTW, I've already read most of the reviews on all the top sites (incl. Newegg).

Most people love it, even the guy whose 2.5 yr-old daughter broke off the door from its hinges - he fixed it, no prob.

I hope Windows 7 is better than Vista.
The Ubuntu project sure is.


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