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Name: bedrock22
Date: March 19, 2006 at 23:21:08 Pacific
OS: None
CPU/Ram: AMD Athlon 3700
Product: custom
Comment:

Hi-

Putting together a custom built computer and I've run into
this problem.

When only plugged into the power supply and i turn on
the computer, the cd-drive will power up and can be
opened and closed. however, when i go to plug it into the
motherboard via the ribbon cable, when i power on, the
cd-drive does not power up. i cant understand for the life
of me why this happens.

Any ideas?



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Response Number 1
Name: sterlingk
Date: March 20, 2006 at 05:22:22 Pacific
Reply:

Now, I may look kinda stupid here, but it is my understanding that the ribbon cable is only carrying the signal information, and you still have to connect the drive to the power supply by the molex connectors....or don't I understand your question correctly ?


I wonder what'll happen if I do this ?


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Response Number 2
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 20, 2006 at 09:15:46 Pacific
Reply:

If this is not a new drive, your drive motor may be dying or dead.
See my posts in this:
http://www.computing.net/windowsxp/wwwboard/forum/147149.html

It could also be the board on the drive has been damaged - e.g. from a bad power supply that shorted or put out too much voltage, a power surge or spike if the computer wasn't protected from that, or from too much heat inside the case because of a failed cpu or power supply fan.



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Response Number 3
Name: bedrock22
Date: March 20, 2006 at 11:05:26 Pacific
Reply:

sterling, the power cord is still attached.

in a nutshell, the cd-rom drive doesnt operate once its connected to the motherboard (and the power cord plugged into it)... when i disconnected the ribbon connecting the cd-rom drive to the motherboard, and boot, the cd-rom drive operates, and can be opened and closed.

its extremely strange... ive never seen anything like this before. i figured it was some kind of mechanical or electical fault, but i cant determine if its either a problem with the disc drive, the motherboard, or a BIOS or internal setting that independently determines the usability of the drive.


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Response Number 4
Name: ham30
Date: March 20, 2006 at 11:15:39 Pacific
Reply:

Make sure the signal cable is not in upside down (at either end).


Sorry, I do not check for private messages


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Response Number 5
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 20, 2006 at 13:25:55 Pacific
Reply:

"Make sure the signal cable is not in upside down (at either end)."

As in ......
We like to assume the CD drive is connected properly, but it might not be .......
- if the data cable does not have an external tab on its connectors, they will go onto the drive or the mboard header pins either way - the stripe on the data cable is usually next to the power connector on the drive, or whichever is the pin 1 end (often it is marked on the back of the drive) - on the mboard the stripe on the pin one end - if its not clearly marked (with a 1 or an arrowhead, or similar, the stripe usually is on the same side as it is for the data cable for a hard drive, or look in the mboard manual if you have no other IDE connected drive. If both ends have the stripe on the wrong side, it will also work that way - you just can't have the two ends opposite ways.

If you have that right, and it still doesn't work right, try another data cable - a 40 wire one is fine for a CD/DVD drive, unless a UDMA66 or higher hard drive is connected to the same data cable, in which case it must be 80 wire (rated for UDMA66 or higher).

If it still won't work right, one of the other things I pointed you to is wrong.


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Response Number 6
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 20, 2006 at 13:37:27 Pacific
Reply:

We're also assuming you have the jumper on the drive in the right position:
- master, or cable select and on the end connector of the data cable if it is by itself on a data cable or the primary drive on a data cable,
- or slave, or cable select and on the middle connector on the data cable, if there is another drive on the data cable that is master.
Personally I never use cable select.


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Response Number 7
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 20, 2006 at 14:19:51 Pacific
Reply:

Or if that wasn't clear enough....

We're also assuming you have the jumper on the drive in the right position:
- jumpered master, on any data cable connector; or jumpered cable select and on the end connector (master for cable select) of the data cable if it is by itself on a data cable, or the CD/DVD is the primary drive on a data cable and there are two drives on the cable,
- or jumpered slave, on any data cable connector; or jumpered cable select and on the middle connector (slave for cable select) on the data cable, if and only if there is another drive on the data cable that is master.
The two connectors for the drives on a three connector data cable are closer together; you must pay attention to that if you are using cable select jumpering - that doesn't matter if you have one, or both drives if there are two on the same cable, jumpered master and/or slave.
If the data cable has only two connectors, which is possible especially with some recent ones, the drive can only be jumpered master, or cable select (it will be seen as master).

Personally I never use cable select.

Some recent mboards will recognize a drive as slave even if there is no other drive on the data cable - most other mboards will not see the drive at all, and doing that can cause a delay, or even a forever stall, while booting.



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