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Name: Erik Rosenbluh
Date: March 20, 2006 at 09:49:52 Pacific
OS: Win XP SP2
CPU/Ram: P4 2.8
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Argh! One of my internal drives has stopped working. It doesn't mount, and I don't know why. I removed it and put it into an external enclosure just in case it was a motherboard thing, but it still doesn't come up. What else can I try? Is there any way to save the media? I wouldn't be able to do some kind of platter transplant would I?



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Name: geohoffman49431
Date: March 20, 2006 at 10:02:40 Pacific
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Try plugging it into another computer and see if you can get at the data. If that does not work it is definately the hard drive.

"I wouldn't be able to do some kind of platter transplant would I?"

No. They use special chambers that remove dust and contaminants from the air and special suits when they make them or repair them.

My friend swears this works (I dont really believe him as I found it on a list of hard drive myths on google): He says put it in a plastic bag in the freezer. Then take it out of the bag and reattach it to the system and turn the system on. You will only have a short time to get data off the drive and it will stop working completely - so know what you need to save and where it is. Like I said I dont believe it works but he says it worked on about 2/3 of hard drives he tried it on. Look it up online before you try it. This is a last resort method just before you decide to throw away the drive.

If it is absolutely essential to get the data send it to an expert and pony up the small fortune it will take.


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Response Number 2
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 20, 2006 at 10:19:54 Pacific
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"Is there any way to save the media? I wouldn't be able to do some kind of platter transplant would I?"

Does it spin? Does the bios see it?
If both of those apply, connect it as a slave, and test it with a hard drive diagnostics utility, available free at the maker of the drive's web site. If it is not salvagable, see the following.

If it does spin, but is not recognized by the bios, your only options are to either get another drive of the identical model, or a drive in the same family that uses the identical board (much less likely), and swap the controller boards,
or - to open up the drive and swap the platters with a compatible drive - the identical model obviously the best match.
Or you could have a professional service do that for you.
There are usually oddball fasteners in/on them - e.g. star or torx head screws. You must be very careful not to comtaminate the drive inside.

If it does not spin, the motor bearings are probably seized, and/or the motor is burned out. You would have to open up the drive and swap the platters with a compatible drive - the identical model obviously the best match.
Or you could have a professional service do that for you.

There are professional data recovery services all over the web, and if you live in a fair sized place, there may be one or more where you live - some places that build and/or repair computers can do that.

Some drive manufacturers also have a data recovery service that can do these things.


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Response Number 3
Name: Badboy
Date: March 20, 2006 at 10:25:19 Pacific
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Try freezing it as posted above. It won't hurt it and it just might work ... for a while.


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Response Number 4
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 20, 2006 at 10:41:53 Pacific
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The trouble with the plastic bag in the freezer trick is there is an atmospheric vent on all hard drives, and it is quite possible to have frost form inside the drive, even if you use a bag, and that can cause havoc inside the drive, and further damage. Also, it only takes the drive a short time to warm up enough to misbehave again after you remove it from the freezer.
If the drive spins, you can accomplish the same thing without risking the frost probem by removing the drive, positioning it so the controller board is fully exposed, connecting it, and after it has reached its minimum temperature, blowing air at at with a large fan, or better still, cooled air from an air conditioner.
The reason a drive fails is usually because the controller board fails. In the earlier stages of failure, the drive often misbehaves only when it has warmed up - cooling the drive works because there are often chips on the board that are getting too hot for whatever reason.


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Response Number 5
Name: Zenith
Date: March 20, 2006 at 11:04:50 Pacific
Reply:

Erik Rosenbluh-

Go to the drive manufacturer's web site and download diagnostic tools for the drive. It will surely tell you if it's dead or what.

No sense proceeding until you know what's going on with it.

:-)

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Response Number 6
Name: street1
Date: March 20, 2006 at 14:37:00 Pacific
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If you take out the platters and change them with another drive.....

Failure of the heads from a drive where those heads are misaligned often results in unrecoverable data as the donor heads also need to have the original degree of head misalignment in order to recover the data successfully.

You can't just do here a platter there a platter.

This is an exact and precise operation.



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Response Number 7
Name: wheelspinner99
Date: March 20, 2006 at 18:28:03 Pacific
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I have personally done the freezer trick and it has worked. The reason being is that hardware failure inside the drive usually means that the read arm has failed to move back to the start position, which means it has dug itself into the top platter which keeps it from spinning. Since metal shrinks when cooled it can be froen and sometimes you can get the read arm off of the platter allowing it to work properly for a few minutes until the mechanisma inside warm up to the point where they crash onto the platters once again.

Does it work..... you said it 2/3 times


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Response Number 8
Name: Erik Rosenbluh
Date: April 1, 2006 at 20:20:36 Pacific
Reply:

Hey, I swapped the controller board with another drive, and that did the trick. The freezer thing didn't work (probably because it wasn't the platters to begin with). Thanks for all the suggestions.


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Response Number 9
Name: gritty
Date: May 28, 2006 at 19:27:31 Pacific
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Help. Have similar problem with drive not working.

Drive was internal, NTFS, data only, not bootable. Worked yesterday, not today. When installed in computer, Windows will not come up. Take drive out and Windows comes up ok.

Drive shows up during computer boot-up sequence, does spin and was not even warm to touch.

Checked it with Western Digital utilities and drive shows up there and checks out ok.

Tried also with Partition Magic. Drive shows up there as a primary partition and indicates file storage space used and available. Coincidently, drive name previously given has disappeared. Option available to format, but nothing shows for any fixing.

Any clues and what to do?


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Response Number 10
Name: gritty
Date: May 30, 2006 at 19:09:32 Pacific
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I played around with WD Utilities and used a portion that rebuilds the MBR. This fixed the drive completely. Allows Windows to again boot and see this data drive and its contents, even the drive name is back.


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